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    Quote Originally Posted by carolina73 View Post
    1 = 2 - 1
    1 = 3 - 2
    1 = (12 * 0) + 5 - 4

    But then again it depends on what language you speak.

    These facts also depend on agreement for communication.

    1 = 2 when the majority agrees that 1 and 2 are the same thing.
    If everyone agrees that the sky is green and the grass is blue then agreement with that is the only way that you can communicate.

    Just saying that the question lacks context or reason. Trap or not.
    This is basically correct. Ultimately, the answer depends on the conventions we adopt. We know that 1 = 1 is a true statement because it's true by convention. A lot of people forget this, not only when it comes to math, but when it comes to knowledge in general. I feel like people are becoming more and more sure of themselves and their beliefs while thinking less and less about what their beliefs are built on top of. This is a radical departure from how humans thought only a few hundred years ago. Just look at the quality of western political discourse during the 1700's, for example, as compared to now.
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    It is true as also untrue if you consider one is equal to 1 and only one,

    But that's a way it may be said and not the only way so there is a sum,

    As it's true as also untrue if you consider 1 is equal to one but only to 1,

    One the number and 1 the number of one and so there you have the sun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Is the following a true statement? Why or why not?

    1 is equal to 1 and only 1.
    First you have to prove the existence of 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    First you have to prove the existence of 1.
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    Well apparently there are no absolutes any longer so 1 can be whatever floats your boat.
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    Logical law of identity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carolina73 View Post
    1 = 2 - 1
    1 = 3 - 2
    1 = (12 * 0) + 5 - 4

    But then again it depends on what language you speak.

    These facts also depend on agreement for communication.

    1 = 2 when the majority agrees that 1 and 2 are the same thing.
    If everyone agrees that the sky is green and the grass is blue then agreement with that is the only way that you can communicate.

    Just saying that the question lacks context or reason. Trap or not.
    My first thought was that 1 can equal a lot of other things...such as any combination of fractions that total 1. If .5 + .5 = 1, then 1 can logically be said to equal .5 + .5.

    I once read an article by Isaac Asimov in which he "proved" that 1 = 2. He did it using algebra, but at one point he slipped in "divide both sides by 0". If you didn't know that dividing by 0 is not allowed in algebra, you wouldn't catch it. And of course the answer to the question "Why am I not allowed to divide by 0" is "If you were allowed to divide by 0, you'd be able to prove that 1= 2".
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    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    First you have to prove the existence of 1.
    Are you 1 or 2?
    Plant farms and animal sanctuaries with just compensation: Genesis 1:29-30, 2-3, Lev. 24:18-22, Psalm 50, Isaiah 1, 11:6-9, 65, 66, Daniel 1, Hosea 2:18, Revelation 20-22.

    Creation of horses: Zechariah 6:1-8, 14:20. Wild Horses, burros persecuted, parted out in violation of Public Law 92-195:
    https://twitter.com/WildHorseEdu

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    ..in general, the nature of the problem remains to be seen

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