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    The topic is complex and has much to do with the changing face of America. Trump knew that and played on hatred for immigrants from the very beginning of his political reign. He could not even face the fact Pres Obama was born here. That refrain woke the conservative right to its basic racism even shown today with their hatred of particular congressional woman who aren't white. The book 'Caste: The Origins of Our Discontents' covers the topic well. Trump is still president in many rural areas of America, demonstrating both their ignorance and lack of American values of inclusion and acceptance. Democracy does appeal to the uneducated, it is too complex. Busy now gotta change the oil in one of our vehicles.

    "The United States is exceptionally polarized compared to other Western nations due to unique aspects of its history, culture, politics, legal institutions, religious attitudes, race relations and foreign policy. Even though divisions exist in all countries, there are far more sources and forces of polarization in America. Its polarization is also frequently over very basic issues, such as whether people should have a right to medical treatment, whether to allow unlimited spending by special interests in political campaigns, whether global warming is a hoax, whether to torture terrorists and whether people should have an unbridled right to bear arms.

    Moreover, the U.S. has many other unique features within the West, including mass incarceration, the death penalty, a tendency to exempt itself from international human rights treaties, and a substantial minority of Biblical literalists who reject the theory of evolution and believe in apocalyptic prophecies."

    https://news.stanford.edu/2017/04/03...ericas-divide/

    "Americans are more divided than ever, gridlocked over social issues, race, gender and the economy. In this series, The Associated Press explores what divides us and how deep those divisions run."

    https://www.ap.org/explore/divided-america/

    I agree only in part with piece below.

    'The Source of America’s Division: Not What We’ve Thought?'

    https://www.intellectualtakeout.org/...-weve-thought/
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    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    I posted it: your source article, thereby your thesis has no merit. I've just shown you that. Now either accept that your OP has no merit or continue to lie about it. The author of your source article made a silly unfounded statement that cannot possibly be backed up.

    So here it is again: Prove that!
    Take a look around. Who started all this crap? You liberals did with your tribal absurdity and "it takes a village". It takes caring parents, not anything else.
    Liberals are a clear and present danger to our nation
    Pick your enemies carefully.






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    Quote Originally Posted by midcan5 View Post
    The topic is complex and has much to do with the changing face of America. Trump knew that and played on hatred for immigrants from the very beginning of his political reign. He could not even face the fact Pres Obama was born here. That refrain woke the conservative right to its basic racism even shown today with their hatred of particular congressional woman who aren't white. The book 'Caste: The Origins of Our Discontents' covers the topic well. Trump is still president in many rural areas of America, demonstrating both their ignorance and lack of American values of inclusion and acceptance. Democracy does appeal to the uneducated, it is too complex. Busy now gotta change the oil in one of our vehicles.

    "The United States is exceptionally polarized compared to other Western nations due to unique aspects of its history, culture, politics, legal institutions, religious attitudes, race relations and foreign policy. Even though divisions exist in all countries, there are far more sources and forces of polarization in America. Its polarization is also frequently over very basic issues, such as whether people should have a right to medical treatment, whether to allow unlimited spending by special interests in political campaigns, whether global warming is a hoax, whether to torture terrorists and whether people should have an unbridled right to bear arms.

    Moreover, the U.S. has many other unique features within the West, including mass incarceration, the death penalty, a tendency to exempt itself from international human rights treaties, and a substantial minority of Biblical literalists who reject the theory of evolution and believe in apocalyptic prophecies."

    https://news.stanford.edu/2017/04/03...ericas-divide/

    "Americans are more divided than ever, gridlocked over social issues, race, gender and the economy. In this series, The Associated Press explores what divides us and how deep those divisions run."

    https://www.ap.org/explore/divided-america/

    I agree only in part with piece below.

    'The Source of America’s Division: Not What We’ve Thought?'

    https://www.intellectualtakeout.org/...-weve-thought/
    When did he do that?

    I see Trump and people speaking out about illegal invaders of our borders but never legal immigrants.

    I have seen people that do not like this country invited to leave by both sides.


    Your purposeful deceit is obvious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by midcan5 View Post
    The topic is complex and has much to do with the changing face of America. Trump knew that and played on hatred for immigrants from the very beginning of his political reign. He could not even face the fact Pres Obama was born here. That refrain woke the conservative right to its basic racism even shown today with their hatred of particular congressional woman who aren't white. The book 'Caste: The Origins of Our Discontents' covers the topic well. Trump is still president in many rural areas of America, demonstrating both their ignorance and lack of American values of inclusion and acceptance. Democracy does appeal to the uneducated, it is too complex. Busy now gotta change the oil in one of our vehicles.

    "The United States is exceptionally polarized compared to other Western nations due to unique aspects of its history, culture, politics, legal institutions, religious attitudes, race relations and foreign policy. Even though divisions exist in all countries, there are far more sources and forces of polarization in America. Its polarization is also frequently over very basic issues, such as whether people should have a right to medical treatment, whether to allow unlimited spending by special interests in political campaigns, whether global warming is a hoax, whether to torture terrorists and whether people should have an unbridled right to bear arms.

    Moreover, the U.S. has many other unique features within the West, including mass incarceration, the death penalty, a tendency to exempt itself from international human rights treaties, and a substantial minority of Biblical literalists who reject the theory of evolution and believe in apocalyptic prophecies."

    https://news.stanford.edu/2017/04/03...ericas-divide/

    "Americans are more divided than ever, gridlocked over social issues, race, gender and the economy. In this series, The Associated Press explores what divides us and how deep those divisions run."

    https://www.ap.org/explore/divided-america/

    I agree only in part with piece below.

    'The Source of America’s Division: Not What We’ve Thought?'

    https://www.intellectualtakeout.org/...-weve-thought/


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    The topic is the socialism of the left. You are dismissed.
    He keeps mentioning that book. Caste: The Origins of Our Discontents'

    I would ask him what he found so compelling about this book but I'm sure he couldn't tell me.
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    Division is an accurate term but also somewhat misleading.

    Only one side is trying to abuse Federal Power in dictating how we live, cooperate, and relate to one another in all things. Only one side is claiming Free Market Economics and Individualism are a bad thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    The topic is the socialism of the left. You are dismissed.
    No the topic is our divided country and the lie your source is saying. Seems the division is a broad subject.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    The topic is the socialism of the left. You are dismissed.
    Socialism- you’re talking about public assistance. Do I have to trot out American history and embarrass you again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    No the topic is our divided country and the lie your source is saying. Seems the division is a broad subject.
    Our divisions are because of the socialism of the left. That is the topic. If you disagree, feel free to make your case but please stop whining.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Socialism- you’re talking about public assistance. Do I have to trot out American history and embarrass you again?
    As I've explained before, given capitalism as enjoying the fruits of one's labor, the old socialism sought to control the labor (the means of production) and, when that failed, switched to a new socialism that seeks to control not fruits of that labor (redistribution). From the socialists on the far left, like Sanders and AOC, to the progressive leaders, like Pelosi and Schumer and Biden, to the moderates, like Manchin and Sinema, all seek more or less the same new socialist redistribution.

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