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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    The people you're talking about dislike America. How could they be advocates of National Socialism?
    Venezuela, ect.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by RMNIXON View Post
    I understand what your saying and agree to a certain extent, but I just love calling lefties Fascists because it Triggers!

    As I have pointed out in many threads the notion of calling anyone who dare disagree with your left politics a "Fascist" came from European post WWII Communists. It was intentional misdirection from the simple fact that NAZI Germany was a National "Socialist" operation only diverging with the Commies on the Internationalist philosophy of totalitarianism by revolution rather than occupation. What we see today coming from the modern Left with Open Borders and all the rest.
    There is no question that the progressive left is responsible for this abuse of language.
    Whoever criticizes capitalism, while approving immigration, whose working class is its first victim, had better shut up. Whoever criticizes immigration, while remaining silent about capitalism, should do the same.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RMNIXON View Post
    Venezuela, ect.....
    That appears to be class based. Hitler found that abhorrent.
    Whoever criticizes capitalism, while approving immigration, whose working class is its first victim, had better shut up. Whoever criticizes immigration, while remaining silent about capitalism, should do the same.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    America First is the only approach that resembles fascism is any meaningful way but that's not fascism either. I'm not sure where you're all coming from. Big government? Authoritarianism? Those are characteristic of multiple philosophies and ideologies. Why not just call progressives Bolsheviks or communists? It makes more sense.
    You forgot racism, but that too was characteristic of many ideologies.

    America First is nationalistic, putting the nation, American first, and dealing with solving their problems in pragmatic ways. But that's not fascism.

    Fascism today is mainly a dysphemism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    Fascism as an ideology still exists, however there are arguably no true fascists nation's today. One can argue that some come close.
    Sure they do. Fascism is part of many governments. Venezuela, Cuba, Iran...and in more subtle cases even countries like the UK, Germany, USA...

    Fascism is just using the brute force of government against the business community and the populace. Obama certainly crossed that border a couple times. Pelosi is happy to cross that border. Biden crossed that line just recently with Social Media companies. China lives in Fascism. You don't exist if you do not cooperate with the CCP.
    Fascism is pictured as Mussolini, but Italy was just an notable case. It was not the definition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carolina73 View Post
    Sure they do. Fascism is part of many governments. Venezuela, Cuba, Iran...and in more subtle cases even countries like the UK, Germany, USA...

    Fascism is just using the brute force of government against the business community and the populace. Obama certainly crossed that border a couple times. Pelosi is happy to cross that border. Biden crossed that line just recently with Social Media companies. China lives in Fascism. You don't exist if you do not cooperate with the CCP.
    Fascism is pictured as Mussolini, but Italy was just an notable case. It was not the definition.
    That's where fascism veered off tracks to.

    Its original conception was to give various sectors of society, fasci, corporate bodies like various industries, agriculture, guilds, etc, both their leaders and the workers, a voice in the government of the nation, with the nation, the fascio, as the ultimate purpose.

    Where it failed, why it failed, was the singular leader, Mussolini, Hitler, Franco, etc, assumed they embodied the nation and became megalomaniacal about it. The same happened with Stalin, Mao, etc. In many ways, FDR and Churchill assumed similar powers to fight the Great Depression and then the war. So it's not just the failure of fascism, this brute force of government against business, industry, agriculture, and generally dragging down the people.
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    The OP article can be read in a number of ways.

    For this poor old humanist country mouse, what is most important is not what it says about government nor about industry. Rather, it's what it tells us about ourselves -- us -- h. sapiens. You, me and the folks next door.

    It can take a bodacious amount of education and, most importantly, a willingness of the recipient to accept it, for a person to override his/her emotions and prejudices and look at an issue through the lens of logic and reason. After many years of living and observing those around me, I've come to the conclusion that the percent of us for whom thinking has become a habit is somewhere south of large. I place in evidence the comments on forums such as this one.


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    My wife said she will just tell everyone she is an illegal alien.

    No one on any government level cares whether they are vaccinated or not.

    She will get a pass 100% of the time.
    When it is not allowed to be questioned, it is not science, it is PROPAGANDA

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    Quote Originally Posted by carolina73 View Post
    Sure they do. Fascism is part of many governments. Venezuela, Cuba, Iran...and in more subtle cases even countries like the UK, Germany, USA...

    Fascism is just using the brute force of government against the business community and the populace. Obama certainly crossed that border a couple times. Pelosi is happy to cross that border. Biden crossed that line just recently with Social Media companies. China lives in Fascism. You don't exist if you do not cooperate with the CCP.
    Fascism is pictured as Mussolini, but Italy was just an notable case. It was not the definition.
    Fascism is more than that, for example it includes ultra-nationalism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RMNIXON View Post
    " but I just love calling lefties Fascists because it Triggers!"

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    .... what a total egg-head...(lol)

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