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    Quote Originally Posted by gamewell45 View Post
    This is something that should have been done 4 years ago. But all we hear are excuses, excuses from both administrations. Good luck getting any money back from Mexico; their president kept his word to his citizens when he promised them that they "wouldn't pay a penny towards the wall". Ours didn't.
    You expected a check? How about getting our money back through trade deals?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Trump cuts aid to Central American countries as migrant ...



    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration-trump-idUSKCN1RC013
    Mar 30, 2019 · He has declared a national emergency to justify redirecting money earmarked for the military to pay for the wall. Mexico has played down the possibility of a border shutdown.


    Did Mexico put troops on both their borders over migration for the first time ever while under Trump? Did they not have to pay their Army to patrol the US Border under Trump?


    Was Mexico forced to open all kinds of Consulates due to Trump's Remain in Mexico Policy?


    So for the first time concerning Migration Mexico had to pay out money that they never paid out before, Correct?
    1. Mexico pays US in new deal to jail or fine people caught ...

      https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/mexico...
      The U.S. government collected its first fine as part of a new bilateral deal that forces Mexico to prosecute anyone who damages the fence along one part of the

    Is Mexico Paying fines for any of their people that Damage the Border Wall? The Answer is yes.


    So tell us again how Mexico isnt paying for the Border wall.
    Show me the cancelled check; I want to see the cancelled check addressed to the US, like Trump said when he was running for president. So far we've seen nothing that indicates reimbursement via cancelled check. Everything else you mentioned is mere window dressing.


    Fact check: Mexico never paid for it. But what about Trump's other border wall promises? (nbcnews.com)

    Donald Trump Admits U.S. Taxpayers Will Pay For The Wall, Claims Mexico Will Reimburse Costs | HuffPost Latest News

    Trump claims Mexico will reimburse US for border wall funds (kcra.com)

    Donald Trump Admits U.S. Taxpayers Will Pay For The Wall, Claims Mexico Will Reimburse Costs | HuffPost Latest News

    Trump claims Mexico will reimburse US for border wall funds (wgal.com)
    God Bless America, God Bless our Military and God Bless the Police who defended the country against the insurgents on January 6, 2021

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    The U.S. government collected its first fine as part of a new bilateral deal that forces Mexico to prosecute anyone who damages the fence along one part of the southern border and send penalties collected to the United States.


    "We just collected the first fine," said Gloria Chavez, the former Border Patrol chief in El Centro, California, who spearheaded the initiative. "It was like $600. The person paid the fine in lieu of going to jail in Mexico for damaging the border wall."


    American and Mexican leaders reached a deal a year ago this week to start arresting, prosecuting, and seeking damages from anyone caught attempting to destroy border barrier in southeastern California, where the Border Patrol made $396,000 worth of repairs at 1,300 cuts in its fence in fiscal 2019, Customs and Border Protection told the Washington Examiner. The 2019 fiscal year ran from Oct. 1, 2018, through Sept. 30, 2019.


    On Nov. 22, 2019, CBP's Office of Chief Counsel and the Mexican government reached a deal to go after fence cutters in court and send any fines derived from prosecutions back to the U.S.



    The Mexican government recently began prosecuting suspects caught on its side of the border across from southeastern California. It marks the first time the countries have partnered to reimburse U.S.


    The U.S. has recouped $1,273 in four instances in which Mexico prosecuted people for attempting to blow-torch or saw through older mesh and scrap-metal fencing that was installed during the Clinton, Bush, and Obama administrations. Another 15 cases are before the Mexican courts.


    Chavez hopes to establish the same agreement in her new region of command in El Paso, Texas......snip~


    LMAO.....you want to see the cancelled Check? Talk with Newsom in California.
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    It was a stupid statement to make. Typical Trump; but the important thing is that he was building the wall. Policy over personality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    The U.S. government collected its first fine as part of a new bilateral deal that forces Mexico to prosecute anyone who damages the fence along one part of the southern border and send penalties collected to the United States.


    "We just collected the first fine," said Gloria Chavez, the former Border Patrol chief in El Centro, California, who spearheaded the initiative. "It was like $600. The person paid the fine in lieu of going to jail in Mexico for damaging the border wall."


    American and Mexican leaders reached a deal a year ago this week to start arresting, prosecuting, and seeking damages from anyone caught attempting to destroy border barrier in southeastern California, where the Border Patrol made $396,000 worth of repairs at 1,300 cuts in its fence in fiscal 2019, Customs and Border Protection told the Washington Examiner. The 2019 fiscal year ran from Oct. 1, 2018, through Sept. 30, 2019.


    On Nov. 22, 2019, CBP's Office of Chief Counsel and the Mexican government reached a deal to go after fence cutters in court and send any fines derived from prosecutions back to the U.S.



    The Mexican government recently began prosecuting suspects caught on its side of the border across from southeastern California. It marks the first time the countries have partnered to reimburse U.S.


    The U.S. has recouped $1,273 in four instances in which Mexico prosecuted people for attempting to blow-torch or saw through older mesh and scrap-metal fencing that was installed during the Clinton, Bush, and Obama administrations. Another 15 cases are before the Mexican courts.


    Chavez hopes to establish the same agreement in her new region of command in El Paso, Texas......snip~


    LMAO.....you want to see the cancelled Check? Talk with Newsom in California.
    So in other words, the information I posted is accurate and proves that trump did not keep his end of the bargain to make Mexico pay for the wall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gamewell45 View Post
    So in other words, the information I posted is accurate and proves that trump did not keep his end of the bargain to make Mexico pay for the wall.
    Did Mexico pay fines for damage to the Walls or Fencing? Once you get done answering yes. Then think about how they just paid for the Wall. That they said they would never pay for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Did Mexico pay fines for damage to the Walls or Fencing? Once you get done answering yes. Then think about how they just paid for the Wall. That they said they would never pay for.
    Whether the fence cutters paid fines for damage to to wall is immaterial at this juncture since they never paid originally to have the wall constructed. The news articles get right to the point on this. Trump never kept his promise regarding the wall reimbursement from Mexico.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gamewell45 View Post
    Whether the fence cutters paid fines for damage to to wall is immaterial at this juncture since they never paid originally to have the wall constructed. The news articles get right to the point on this. Trump never kept his promise regarding the wall reimbursement from Mexico.
    You mean Lame Stream Media articles that didnt talk about the money that Mexico never put out before? Like for their Troops on the US Border and all the Consulates they opened in Mexico? One way or another and now it looks like a few ways they are paying for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    You mean Lame Stream Media articles that didnt talk about the money that Mexico never put out before? Like for their Troops on the US Border and all the Consulates they opened in Mexico? One way or another and now it looks like a few ways they are paying for it.
    Not according to what the media maintains; we had to outlay the monies to pay for construction of the wall and were not reimbursed by Mexico for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gamewell45 View Post
    Not according to what the media maintains; we had to outlay the monies to pay for construction of the wall and were not reimbursed by Mexico for it.
    Did anyone take that boast seriously? I rolled my eyes when I heard it.
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