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Thread: Turkey turns away from Biden & towards Putin, the US NATO military bloc is on rocks

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    Quote Originally Posted by carolina73 View Post
    I'm actually more interested in what this means to China/Russia.

    Are we actually looking at Russia putting up a geographical wall to keep China's New Silk Road from making it to Europe?

    China wants world dominance. Russia does not want to be isolated by China's expansion.

    The New Silk Road is drawn right through Syria and Turkey
    Suggest doing a bit more homework before making such incorrect statements . Russia is currently benefiting substantially from B&R developments , and this will only increase going forward . Russia's Fare East is an important component of the B&R trading routes .

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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    NATO is on the rocks.... lol - was that the second or third propaganda point for the day on the CCP list? You clearly do not understand commitments and relationships.
    I think the US's commitments to the people of Afghnistan is the best demonstration of that . As Donald Trump stated a few years back , NATO is a spent force , and needs to end . The Europeans are slowly beginning to agree , and develop alternative plans more suited to modern times .

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJL View Post
    Suggest doing a bit more homework before making such incorrect statements . Russia is currently benefiting substantially from B&R developments , and this will only increase going forward . Russia's Fare East is an important component of the B&R trading routes .
    But Russia and China are competing for dominance in Central Asia and the Stans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PJL View Post
    I think the US's commitments to the people of Afghnistan is the best demonstration of that . As Donald Trump stated a few years back , NATO is a spent force , and needs to end . The Europeans are slowly beginning to agree , and develop alternative plans more suited to modern times .
    NATO is a Cold War relic trying to stay relevant. They need to refocus on the defense of Europe and stop expanding east.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PJL View Post
    I think the US's commitments to the people of Afghnistan is the best demonstration of that . As Donald Trump stated a few years back , NATO is a spent force , and needs to end . The Europeans are slowly beginning to agree , and develop alternative plans more suited to modern times .
    You think wrong, comrade. Trump brought a recommitment to shared defense spending amongst our NATO partners, much to the chagrin of your friends.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ure-from-trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    But Russia and China are competing for dominance in Central Asia and the Stans.
    There has been no time in history where China and Russia have been more co-operative......neither has ambitions for "domination" , just good co-operative diplomatic and trade relationships .............what the hell are you on about..there is only one country on Earth that's obsessed with domination, and their influence continues to decline.....(lol).
    Last edited by PJL; 10-14-2021 at 10:25 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    But Russia and China are competing for dominance in Central Asia and the Stans.
    True but can Russia really compete?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    NATO is a Cold War relic trying to stay relevant. They need to refocus on the defense of Europe and stop expanding east.
    The only threat to Europe is from refugees fleeing war zones .....Russia is not any threat at all to Europe .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    True but can Russia really compete?
    Russia is the most powerful nuclear country at present ......but Russia and China are not in competition , they are in co-operation on all levels . The US is totally incapable of driving any wedge between Russia and China , no matter how hard they try .... it just won't happen, because robust trade , completely negates the inclination for hostilities ....something the US has sadly lost site of.
    Last edited by PJL; 10-14-2021 at 11:19 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    You think wrong, comrade. Trump brought a recommitment to shared defense spending amongst our NATO partners, much to the chagrin of your friends.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ure-from-trump
    Like most things Trump tried to bring to the table , the plan backfired . Europe will go there own way , and increase their trade and their co-operation with Russia and with China .

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