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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    Dig deep into the numbers in Korea (through the source in the link) and you'll see the overwhelming majority of atrocities were committed by your commie buddies. It was a communist invasion that started the War and the UN (not the US) defended freedom. The United States supported the South, the Soviet Union supported the North, and each government claimed sovereignty over the whole Korean peninsula. In 1950, after years of mutual hostilities, North Korea invaded South Korea in an attempt to re-unify the peninsula under its communist rule. It was non-communist to start and your side wanted to make it commie - your side were the invaders and the UN was the protector.

    Afghanistan - supported Al Qaeda's attack on us. Iraq was a UN deal.

    You hate America so much that you lie to push your agenda. Retired is correct.
    You're avoiding the question . Why was Korea divided into two countries in 1945 , and who was responsible for it ?
    Last edited by PJL; 10-16-2021 at 12:24 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    Dig deep into the numbers in Korea (through the source in the link) and you'll see the overwhelming majority of atrocities were committed by your commie buddies. It was a communist invasion that started the War and the UN (not the US) defended freedom. The United States supported the South, the Soviet Union supported the North, and each government claimed sovereignty over the whole Korean peninsula. In 1950, after years of mutual hostilities, North Korea invaded South Korea in an attempt to re-unify the peninsula under its communist rule. It was non-communist to start and your side wanted to make it commie - your side were the invaders and the UN was the protector.

    Afghanistan - supported Al Qaeda's attack on us. Iraq was a UN deal.

    You hate America so much that you lie to push your agenda. Retired is correct.
    Criticizing US foreign policy is not hatred for America.
    Power always thinks it has a great soul, and vast views, beyond the comprehension of the weak. And that it is doing God service when it is violating all His laws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pjohns View Post
    It has been only a few day, now, since China boldly violated Taiwan's air space, in a blatant attempt at intimidation.

    I almost wish that mainland China would go ahead, and bomb Taiwan.

    Yes, the stock market would then drop precipitously; we might even see a four-digit Dow instead of the five digits that we have long been accustomed to.

    And we would be engaged in the early stages of WWIII.

    So from those standpoints, it would not be a happy thought.

    But I simply detest intimidations. And bullying.

    My thought is--and always has been--if hostility is what you truly want, then bring it on. Don't hold back. Regardless of the ramifications.

    Oh, and I sincerely believe that we should end our "complicated" relationship with China. (That is an adjective that I have heard ad nauseum.)

    We should stop--entirely!--trading with China.

    And we should, furthermore, stop trading with any country that either sells goods to China or purchases goods from China.

    If we were to grade it on a one-to-ten scale, with one indicating thoroughgoing appeasement, and ten indicating outright hostility, I think I would prefer about a 9.5...
    A war with China would be suicidal. Risking a war with China over Taiwan would be reckless beyond belief.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    That is CCP bull$#@!.
    The US government has invaded, attacked, sanctioned dozens of countries over the years, far more than China has. That is just a fact. So, yeah, it is kind of ridiculous for Americans to bemoan bullying and intimidation while their own government goes around destroying country after country. Just ask the people in Iraq or Libya who they think is a bigger bully.
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    Conservatives cannot even beat the communist Democrats in their own country, yet they want to start a fight with the communists in China? Maybe they should be focusing on their own country first before they go starting a war with a nuclear power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    A war with China would be suicidal. Risking a war with China over Taiwan would be reckless beyond belief.
    Gordon Chang has a most interesting piece in The Epoch Times. He notes the following:

    (1) The so-called "One China" policy, enacted in the late 1970s (under then-President Carter) should be repealed. We should officially recognize Taiwan--and re-establish full diplomatic relations with them--regardless of mainland China's reaction to this.

    (2) We should either sell Taiwan some of our nuclear weapons--at least one--or allow them to develop their own (although the latter carries the risk that mainland China might begin hostilities prior to its full development).

    (3) Actually, Taiwan may already have nukes, which are just not officially known (much as North Korea probably does). In fact, it is not a signatory to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.

    (4) We should abandon the policy of "strategic ambiguity," and let mainland China know, unequivocally, that they do not wish to invade Taiwan--unless they are okay with starting WWIII.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captdon View Post
    You don't screw with the biggest kid on the block. That's us for now.
    But the intimidation factor of Joe Biden is about as lame as the picture of Mike Dukakis driving a tank.

    But Xi! He whipped Pop Corn!
    Let's go Brandon !!!

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    Before we get to excited we should not be lured into war by misinformation.

    So far China has only flown war planes toward Taiwan, not actually into their airspace.

    Russia flies close to US airspace on a regular basis near Alaska.


    The Pratas Islands may belong to Taiwan but they are 300 miles away and I think 4 people assigned there. That is where China has been making the push.
    Let's go Brandon !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pjohns View Post
    Gordon Chang has a most interesting piece in The Epoch Times. He notes the following:

    (1) The so-called "One China" policy, enacted in the late 1970s (under then-President Carter) should be repealed. We should officially recognize Taiwan--and re-establish full diplomatic relations with them--regardless of mainland China's reaction to this.

    (2) We should either sell Taiwan some of our nuclear weapons--at least one--or allow them to develop their own (although the latter carries the risk that mainland China might begin hostilities prior to its full development).

    (3) Actually, Taiwan may already have nukes, which are just not officially known (much as North Korea probably does). In fact, it is not a signatory to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.

    (4) We should abandon the policy of "strategic ambiguity," and let mainland China know, unequivocally, that they do not wish to invade Taiwan--unless they are okay with starting WWIII.
    The Epoch Times is the media outlet for the seperatist/terrorist element of the Uighers .....(lol)

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJL View Post
    The Epoch Times is the media outlet for the seperatist/terrorist element of the Uighers .....(lol)
    You really have no credibility ad hom-ing with your dependence upon rt and sputnik.

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