'We're being pressured into sex by some trans women'

[DGUtley]

this was an issue awhile back re: heterosexual men and trans women. Now…


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Is a lesbian transphobic if she does not want to have sex with trans women? Some lesbians say they are increasingly being pressured and coerced into accepting trans women as partners - then shunned and even threatened for speaking out. Several have spoken to the BBC, along with trans women who are concerned about the issue too.



https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-57853385

[FindersKeepers]

I can't even keep the genders straight anymore (no pun intended).

Nobody should pressure anyone into having sex, no matter the gender.

And people have inborn preferences. It doesn't make them transphobic or homophobic, it just makes them who they are.

I get what the lesbian is saying -- if she prefers women, she's not going to be able to ignore that a trans woman has a penis. She doesn't like penises. Why would she suddenly want to be penetrated by a penis when she doesn't like them?

And, why would a transwoman want to penetrate another woman?

The shame game is getting way out of hand...

[Dr. Who]

The fact that individuals are trans doesn't necessarily change their sexual orientation, as odd is that may seem. However, lesbians like women because they are women and a trans woman is not exactly the same, despite how much they would like to think that all of the hormones and plastic surgery makes them the same. If anyone knows who is female and who is not, it's other females.

[countryboy]

this was an issue awhile back re: heterosexual men and trans women. Now…


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Is a lesbian transphobic if she does not want to have sex with trans women? Some lesbians say they are increasingly being pressured and coerced into accepting trans women as partners - then shunned and even threatened for speaking out. Several have spoken to the BBC, along with trans women who are concerned about the issue too.



https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-57853385

Oh yeah, this is all perfectly normal behavior, nooooo mental issues whatsoever at play here. Move along folks, nothing to see here.

[countryboy]

I can't even keep the genders straight anymore (no pun intended).

Nobody should pressure anyone into having sex, no matter the gender.

And people have inborn preferences. It doesn't make them transphobic or homophobic, it just makes them who they are.

I get what the lesbian is saying -- if she prefers women, she's not going to be able to ignore that a trans woman has a penis. She doesn't like penises. Why would she suddenly want to be penetrated by a penis when she doesn't like them?

And, why would a transwoman want to penetrate another woman?

The shame game is getting way out of hand...

That depends on whether or not the "trans woman" is pre-op, or post-op. You know, if they've undergone the lopadickophamy procedure.

[Cthulhu]

Crazy people usually have crazy problems.

Choices have consequences.

LGBTQ crowd seems to have a higher per capita of crazy problems though.

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[Cthulhu]

Oh yeah, this is all perfectly normal behavior, nooooo mental issues whatsoever at play here. Move along folks, nothing to see here.

Kinda my thoughts. Not my pig, not my pasture, not my problem.

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[Jen]

I can't even keep the genders straight anymore (no pun intended).

Nobody should pressure anyone into having sex, no matter the gender.

And people have inborn preferences. It doesn't make them transphobic or homophobic, it just makes them who they are.

I get what the lesbian is saying -- if she prefers women, she's not going to be able to ignore that a trans woman has a penis. She doesn't like penises. Why would she suddenly want to be penetrated by a penis when she doesn't like them?

And, why would a transwoman want to penetrate another woman?

The shame game is getting way out of hand...

Oh, I can keep genders straight just fine. There are two. I've noticed a whole lot of people being all confused about gender...........their confusion is not my problem.

[The Booman]

Oh good. The left has now ruined sex for everyone. All we have left is beer.

[IMPress Polly]

Being by definition the only tPF member for whom this issue is a real and personal one, let me weigh in:

(I apologize in advance if this is too vulgar, but we're talking about sex here, after all, so some graphicness can't be helped.)

I define myself as a lesbian. By this one of the central things I mean is that I don't care for dick. This may be a foreign concept to our other female members, but I find getting $#@!ed to be painful and demeaning and, most importantly, simply derive no pleasure from it. I also find the penis to be gross in appearance, and the sight of one a massive turn-off. That's just how it is for me. My right to live accordingly has been challenged often in the course of my life, usually by men, you won't be surprised to learn, because apparently it is conveniently "unnatural", or socially irresponsible (what am I thinking betraying America by not reproducing?), to feel this way. Well transwomen are the latest addition to this line of challengers. And look, to a point I get it: like incels, transwomen are often lonely people embittered by rejection. This I get. Lesbians are often romantically lonely too (see me for example). I get the challenge and frustration to a point. What I don't get is the sense of entitlement.

Look, people can convince themselves of just about anything that they really want to believe. The whole existence of cults depends on this, in fact. It's pretty tough to fool your internal chemistry though once someone removes their clothes. You either experience of physical response or you don't. You may be the most awesome person in the world, but that doesn't mean I want to have sex with you. The fact is that my internal chemistry registers a penis as male. *shrugs* I don't know what I'm supposed to do about that, but "powering through those feelings" and just tolerating sex for your benefit instead of enjoying it myself ain't gonna be it! Been there, done that enough times and have the scars (both emotional and physical) to show for it. No. I'm done with that part of my life; with being guilted and ridiculed into doing $#@! I don't want to do, up to and including $#@!ing, because it's supposedly "the right thing" to do for someone else. I'm a human being too! My feelings and my needs matter too!