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    Would we have listened if the request were reasonable and accurrate?

    What I mean is what if the ultra Woke asked instead of demanded? What if they talked of possible causes vs automatic white racism and "privelidge "
    Or of begining an orderly transition to less dependence on fossil fuels vs just demanding we stop using them?
    Or hey stop picking on menatlly ill folks who think changing their gender will help vs those people ARE the other gender.?

    What would have happened to the political landscape if leaders had hostely tried to unite rather than divide us?
    Would anyone on either side have listened? I wonder? Did the people get what they wanted after all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    What I mean is what if the ultra Woke asked instead of demanded? What if they talked of possible causes vs automatic white racism and "privelidge "
    Or of begining an orderly transition to less dependence on fossil fuels vs just demanding we stop using them?
    Or hey stop picking on menatlly ill folks who think changing their gender will help vs those people ARE the other gender.?

    What would have happened to the political landscape if leaders had hostely tried to unite rather than divide us?
    Would anyone on either side have listened? I wonder? Did the people get what they wanted after all?
    One does not "negotiate" with a two year old. The "wokeness" are like small children. They have no idea why they are whining and crying but "I want my Maypo" is the controlling emotion. What reasonable argument could the left make that would lead us to a compromise on any of these isues?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OLD GUY IN FLORIDA View Post
    One does not "negotiate" with a two year old. The "wokeness" are like small children. They have no idea why they are whining and crying but "I want my Maypo" is the controlling emotion. What reasonable argument could the left make that would lead us to a compromise on any of these isues?
    So no we would not have listened? Some of this is real. Like laughing at transitioning people in public or worse. Inner city people do start out with two strikes. Etc. We couls all work togetehr to make our country better. But many of you have pre-agreed to disagree over anything.

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    Inner-city people start out with what they allowed. I have no pity for them. Yes, pity is what they want.
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    No one screaming "white privilege" can define it.

    What happened is that the black race has decided that because they do not want to blend in with the rest of the melting pot that we all need to conform to what they want people to do and act like. The black race segregates itself.

    If they decide to self segregate and not have any common interests or lifestyles than the rest of America then they achieved their goal. Those that chose not to join them are doing perfectly fine but the others resent them for succeeding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    So no we would not have listened? Some of this is real. Like laughing at transitioning people in public or worse. Inner city people do start out with two strikes. Etc. We couls all work togetehr to make our country better. But many of you have pre-agreed to disagree over anything.

    Would you have listened to the arguments of Hitler? Would you listen to the arguments of the demonstrably insane. I am more than willing to, for example, watch while energy companies either shoot themselves in the foot or create new and viable sources of energy. I will not listen to bureaucrats tell me why laws should be put in place to force that.

    I will not listen to any argument regarding people of one gender believing they are actually another gender. I will not engage in harassment of any person or group but I will never consider their claim of normalcy.

    The one group that does not wish to discuss race in a rational manner are the woke. Race relations will not change completely overnight but as compared to the 1950's we had come a very long way in making changes. Then along came Barack Obama who wanted to undo 50 years of progress and now we have Black Lives Matter who we are supposed to accept without question. They don't want discussion, they just want white people gone.

    So, don't pretend its the right who are causing these problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    " Or of begining an orderly transition to less dependence on fossil fuels vs just demanding we stop using them?
    This is the only way that could work IMO. Finding renewable energy sources is something everybody can get behind, I would think.
    But you can't just yank away all of our oil and gas production without having something viable in its place. Just cranking the prices up and making everyone suffer isn't going to get people on your side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    What I mean is what if the ultra Woke asked instead of demanded? What if they talked of possible causes vs automatic white racism and "privelidge "
    Or of begining an orderly transition to less dependence on fossil fuels vs just demanding we stop using them?
    Or hey stop picking on menatlly ill folks who think changing their gender will help vs those people ARE the other gender.?

    What would have happened to the political landscape if leaders had hostely tried to unite rather than divide us?
    Would anyone on either side have listened? I wonder? Did the people get what they wanted after all?
    Most left wing whining is patently absurd, and deliberately so, and so is some of the right wing nonsense. We need a 'Radical Center' to send both wings back to the treehouses they came from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck View Post
    Most left wing whining is patently absurd, and deliberately so, and so is some of the right wing nonsense. We need a 'Radical Center' to send both wings back to the treehouses they came from.
    A radical center, that's an interesting idea. I guess it can't happen, just by the definition of it.
    The problem with the center is that the center keeps drifting to the left, because the radical left keeps going further and further to the left. So other leftness sounds moderate in comparison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carolina73 View Post
    No one screaming "white privilege" can define it.

    What happened is that the black race has decided that because they do not want to blend in with the rest of the melting pot that we all need to conform to what they want people to do and act like. The black race segregates itself.

    If they decide to self segregate and not have any common interests or lifestyles than the rest of America then they achieved their goal. Those that chose not to join them are doing perfectly fine but the others resent them for succeeding.

    Hell, they cannot even define racism as this video shows.

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