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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Let's ignore the fact that Obama's CIA overthrew the democratically elected president of Ukraine with the help of actual fascist and neo-Nazi militias and pretend like Putin is the aggressive one.

    Oh I know!

    Obama was a major player in that fiasco. His funding of the ouster of an elected Ukrainian president paved the way for Crimea to secede. Can't say as I blame them. Of course, the Obama Administration created chaos all over the globe, including cheering on the Arab Spring revolt that led to incredible death and destruction in Libya and Syria, and the loss of our close relationship with Egypt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carolina73 View Post
    The west made a deal with the Ukraine when they gave up their control of the Soviet missiles. Western countries promised to protect the Ukraine. We are not even arming them.

    This will be another credibility loss of the US after Afghanistan. Taiwan might just decide they can't trust us and make a new deal with China.
    The West not should protect them. They are one of the most corrupt nations. They don't have a real army. It is a collection of PMCs that serve a particular oligarch.

    We can arm them so they can kill Russians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Let's ignore the fact that Obama's CIA overthrew the democratically elected president of Ukraine with the help of actual fascist and neo-Nazi militias and pretend like Putin is the aggressive one.
    It was a color revolution, like the soft coup against Trump. The version here relied on the media more than protests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    The West should protect them. They are one of the most corrupt nations. They don't have a real army. It is a collection of PMCs that serve a particular oligarch.

    We can arm them so they can kill Russians.
    Okay. I'm getting some mixed signals there.

    The Ukraine has at least been trying to clean up corruption.
    The oligarchs and Putin certainly had control of the country when Biden sent them 1.5 billion to stop investigating Hunter.

    Are you saying its worse now, better, no change?
    Let's go Brandon !!!

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    Why make this kind of intelligence public?

    They are begging for NATO assistance obviously. Maybe they can become the next Germany with our troops spending money to keep their economy going?

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    Quote Originally Posted by carolina73 View Post
    Okay. I'm getting some mixed signals there.

    The Ukraine has at least been trying to clean up corruption.
    The oligarchs and Putin certainly had control of the country when Biden sent them 1.5 billion to stop investigating Hunter.

    Are you saying its worse now, better, no change?
    I don't see any change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RMNIXON View Post
    Why make this kind of intelligence public?

    They are begging for NATO assistance obviously. Maybe they can become the next Germany with our troops spending money to keep their economy going?
    If the West puts troops there there will be a war with Russia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    If the West puts troops there there will be a war with Russia.

    Send in House Coat Hillary!

    She already claimed to be under fire in Bosnia.....................

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    Neither Taiwan or Ukraine is worth anything to the average American. This is all pointless geopolitics. Who cares what useless agreements our crooked politicians had with their governments? We need to focus on fixing our own country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carolina73 View Post
    Russia preparing to attack Ukraine by late January: Ukraine defense intelligence agency chief


    Russia has more than 92,000 troops amassed around Ukraine’s borders and is preparing for an attack by the end of January or beginning of February, the head of Ukraine’s defense intelligence agency told Military Times.

    Such an attack would likely involve airstrikes, artillery and armor attacks followed by airborne assaults in the east, amphibious assaults in Odessa and Mariupul and a smaller incursion through neighboring Belarus, Ukraine Brig. Gen. Kyrylo Budanov told Military Times Saturday morning in an exclusive interview.



    https://www.militarytimes.com/flashp...-agency-chief/

    Is this timetable factual or Ukraine just kicking NATO in the butt to get moving?
    It's just Ukraine being egged on by US military interests , to create yet another situation that doesn't actually exist .....it's why the EU has totally rejected any notion of Ukraine ever becoming a NATO country ..ie , they are nothing more than a US puppet , and are more trouble than they're worth , both militarily and economically .
    Last edited by PJL; 11-22-2021 at 09:27 PM.

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