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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    This is the way it’s been for more than a century. It’s not new to use taxation as a way to control or influence conduct.
    Right but the more powerful government gets, and it is, the more corrupt it gets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    This is the way it’s been for more than a century. It’s not new to use taxation as a way to control or influence conduct.
    And it is still wrong!

    There is no Constitutional provision for that, only silent acceptance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abby08 View Post
    I don't think Ford originally coined that phrase.
    I think so.

    Attributed to Reagan from informal remarks to reporters 10 October 1984,and to students and faculty at St. John's University 28 March 1985.[citation needed] The statement was made a decade earlier by Gerald Ford in an address to a Joint Session of the Congress, 12 August 1974. It is sometimes attributed to Thomas Jefferson and Barry Goldwater. Similar assertions have often been attributed to Barry Goldwater. Some of the inspiration for such expressions may lie in "The Criminality of the State" by Albert Jay Nock in American Mercury (March 1939) where he stated: "You get the same order of criminality from any State to which you give power to exercise it; and whatever power you give the State to do things for you carries with it the equivalent power to do things to you."

    Source: https://quotepark.com/quotes/1912106...verything-you/
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    Quote Originally Posted by QuaseMarco View Post
    Liberals used to be more like today's libertarians..... but today they are extreme leftist marxists.
    Where are the Civil Liberties left these days?

    Can you just imagine the Government of Nixon mandating vaccinations?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    Ford was a supporter of big government.
    A few quotes from https://www.whitehouse.gov/about-the...gerald-r-ford/

    ...The President acted to curb the trend toward Government intervention and spending as a means of solving the problems of American society and the economy. In the long run, he believed, this shift would bring a better life for all Americans.

    ...Ford established his policies during his first year in office, despite opposition from a heavily Democratic Congress. His first goal was to curb inflation. Then, when recession became the Nation’s most serious domestic problem, he shifted to measures aimed at stimulating the economy. But, still fearing inflation, Ford vetoed a number of non-military appropriations bills that would have further increased the already heavy budgetary deficit. During his first 14 months as President he vetoed 39 measures. His vetoes were usually sustained.

    Ford continued as he had in his Congressional days to view himself as “a moderate in domestic affairs, a conservative in fiscal affairs, and a dyed-in-the-wool internationalist in foreign affairs.” A major goal was to help business operate more freely by reducing taxes upon it and easing the controls exercised by regulatory agencies. “We…declared our independence 200 years ago, and we are not about to lose it now to paper shufflers and computers,” he said....

    Anyway, I just like the quote.
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    Reminds me of the old "Look for the Union label" ...
    In quoting my post, you affirm and agree that you have not been goaded, provoked, emotionally manipulated or otherwise coerced into responding.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Government picking winners and losers is corruption.
    The whole tax code is about controlling our fiscal behavior and facilitating the purchase and sale of influence. Otherwise. This is your bracket, all income counts, no deductions and no need for 90% of the IRS or to pay people to do your taxes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abby08 View Post
    I don't think Ford originally coined that phrase.
    Apparently just another frequently used phrase thought up by a common guy.
    https://www.monticello.org/site/rese...ious-quotation
    Let's go Brandon !!!

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    If they want us to buy electric cars they should spend the money on charging stations.





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    Quote Originally Posted by The Booman View Post
    If they want us to buy electric cars they should spend the money on charging stations.
    And power the charging stations with diesel.....
    "I believe there are more instances of the abridgement of freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments by those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." -- James Madison

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