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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    Is Pluto gay or black? This racist crap is systemic.
    Pluto is trans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    Pluto is trans.
    So Pluto is transitioning to be Venus?





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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
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    Hell he is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FindersKeepers View Post
    I'm not talking about "party" politics, because this is--at its heart--a highly personal issue. I showed you where a majority of Republicans support "some type" of abortions rights, but that support dwindles as a pregnancy reaches the second and third trimester.

    I know the story you're talking about from the Bible--it's a good story, but it actually runs counter to your point that the government should pay for people rather than people stepping up and giving of themselves.

    However, that too is a deflection from your abortion argument against conservatives, because conservatives are asking for some measure of accountability in the form of a cut-off point for abortions. You keep deflecting from my question, and I'm guessing it's because you know you're in the wrong.

    But, I'll ask again...
    Do you think it's okay to abort a full-term baby that would have no problem surviving if it was born?
    You’re not going to reach all the people that a government can and you have no obligation to keep helping them like a government will. And if you think yourself a good person why on earth don’t you care about migrant families like you do these fetuses? Or what about people dying in mass shootings? Why do your politics seem very selfish and perhaps even evil in those areas?
    Last edited by Metal God; 12-05-2021 at 02:58 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metal God View Post
    You’re not going to reach all the people that a government can and you have no obligation to keep helping them like a government will. And if you think yourself a good person why on earth don’t you care about migrant families like you do these fetuses? Or what about people dying in mass shootings? Why do your politics seem very selfish and perhaps even evil in those areas?
    That's where liberals make their biggest mistake.

    As human beings we have an obligation to our fellow human beings. Liberals don't like this--they're often selfish and greedy. Conservatives know in their hearts that charity is the way to move forward.

    I know you'd like to push off your responsibility on the government--you are the poster child for the Me, Me, Me generation.

    People have helped one another since the dawn of time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FindersKeepers View Post
    That's where liberals make their biggest mistake.

    As human beings we have an obligation to our fellow human beings. Liberals don't like this--they're often selfish and greedy. Conservatives know in their hearts that charity is the way to move forward.

    I know you'd like to push off your responsibility on the government--you are the poster child for the Me, Me, Me generation.

    People have helped one another since the dawn of time.
    Just because you’re involved in charities doesn’t mean all conservatives are and all liberals aren’t. It has nothing to do with the bigger picture of what our government is capable of to take care of it’s people. You not supporting that is selfish regardless of if you do good things or not. Luck and privilege go a long way with why you are where you are. You might deny that. But it’s true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metal God View Post
    Just because you’re involved in charities doesn’t mean all conservatives are and all liberals aren’t. It has nothing to do with the bigger picture of what our government is capable of to take care of it’s people. You not supporting that is selfish regardless of if you do good things or not. Luck and privilege go a long way with why you are where you are. You might deny that. But it’s true.

    What's true? That we conservatives believe the government isn't our parents and, isn't obligated to take care of us?

    The only reason democrats are democrats, is because they believe the government should give them everything they want......free.

    You don't really even know what's going on around you, do you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    It's the termination of a life either way and no human child is "independent" but I was just asking a question and getting the reaction I always get. The "I don't like abortion but" crowd has always perplexed me and perhaps even themselves. Have a good evening.
    Until the day you personally have to make that decision, you have no idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metal God View Post
    Just because you’re involved in charities doesn’t mean all conservatives are and all liberals aren’t. It has nothing to do with the bigger picture of what our government is capable of to take care of it’s people. You not supporting that is selfish regardless of if you do good things or not. Luck and privilege go a long way with why you are where you are. You might deny that. But it’s true.
    I would say luck does to some extent. What privilege? I grew up church mouse dirt floor poor. Went into hock up to my ass to go to college and law school, lived in the ghetto until paid off the loans and then moved back out to the country. The luck: I ran into some guy when I was in a miserable job that told me about a different job. I became a partner, left there after 20 years, took all of my clients and started my own law firm with a few others. Really risked it all and stuck our necks out.

    How is it selfish for me to want to keep as much of what my 70 hours a weeks gets me but it isn't selfish for you to take as much of my labor as you can before you risk a revolution?

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