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    Quote Originally Posted by Crepitus View Post
    I was one. It made me realize just how dedicated many of the whack-jobs here were to keeping their echo chamber "pure" and actually led me to not only resign as a VIP but leave the site for years and only show up to tweek the RWNJ's noses occasionally. This place is a joke. The moderation is a joke, the members are a joke, the owner is a joke. And you, Peaty, you are just about the biggest joke of all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crepitus View Post
    I was one. It made me realize just how dedicated many of the whack-jobs here were to keeping their echo chamber "pure" and actually led me to not only resign as a VIP but leave the site for years and only show up to tweek the RWNJ's noses occasionally. This place is a joke. The moderation is a joke, the members are a joke, the owner is a joke. And you, Peaty, you are just about the biggest joke of all.
    So, why be here? Are you that much of a mean person that you come here just to make others' time here miserable? Were you a moderator? Did you do your time to make it better? What have you done to make it better? Just in the last few days I've seen trolling and trolling from you. Very little substance - so why do it? Again, what have you done to try to make this a better place? Some people on here (both sides of the political aisle) really truly do try to have intelligent discussions. My inquiries aren't meant to jab you - I'm serious - why are you here and what have you done?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pammy View Post
    So, why be here? Are you that much of a mean person that you come here just to make others' time here miserable? Were you a moderator? Did you do your time to make it better? What have you done to make it better? Just in the last few days I've seen trolling and trolling from you. Very little substance - so why do it? Again, what have you done to try to make this a better place? Some people on here (both sides of the political aisle) really truly do try to have intelligent discussions. My inquiries aren't meant to jab you - I'm serious - why are you here and what have you done?
    I'm board and mean. It's just that simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crepitus View Post
    I'm board and mean. It's just that simple.
    I'm sorry that life has made you that way. I truly am. I will pray for you tonight, whoever you are in Whichita KS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Common View Post
    First of all moderators are not hamstrung, the only thing that gets you removed from a forum is breaking the rules as written.

    There is a system of discipline here that is more than lenient, moreso than any other forum ive ever been on and I was on my first in 1999-2000 they either warn you or send you a pm first..then they will warn you again and maybe a third

    Any forum member who aggregiously breaks the rules will get disciplined as the mods decide at that point.

    Members imho should never have the right to EVER decide who should get banned or not...

    As far as trolling, you and everyone else posess's the ability to silence any troll on this forum instantly..."IGNORE"
    I have 2 on ignore and they arent both liberals either.

    Lastly, if you have a problem with a particular member, before you do anything else retired pm the mod of your choice and talk to them about it...they will listen even if they dont always agree with you.

    BTW you are one of my favorite posters here... this is not criticing you or intended that way, its just an explanation as to why I personally wouldnt be for your proposal...

    I am not talking about the rules.

    I am talking about someone who is a pure "Richard" 100% of the time to everyone, but stays within the rules.

    I was clear on this in my OP post.

    Again...I am not talking about the rules.

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    As an aside, @Common...criticize all you like. I know you do not mean it personally. We are friends, and thank you for the compliment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thom Paine View Post
    hmmm, why not quit reading and responding to trolls?

    -shrug- It works for me...

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    Mornin' Thom...

    Your tactic will work for you personally, but it will still not get rid of them.

    My suggestion will get rid of them forever.

    Trolls belong as only a bad memory....never to be seen again.

    They bring the community down.
    Last edited by Retirednsmilin308; 12-13-2021 at 10:29 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pammy View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Against. The rules don't require any rational argument for even calling a person a troll, defense again, and discussion by members. All that violates no call-outs. And it will be abused by a few.

    We actually used to do that. We had a special group called VIPs who had a forum area hidden from the rest of the membership. The purpose was to discuss the forum and propose and vote on rules and improvements. Somehow it turned into for a few a room to vent personal animosities towards members behind their backs and led, iirc, to banning a member. It was abandoned.

    As members we have two means of dealing with trolls.

    One, as others have mentioned, ignore them. They will go away if they don't get enough attention. Problem is too many respond to trolls.

    Two, report them. Explain why you think an OP is inflammatory. Refer to continuing trollish behavior. Uou can also, as Common says, PM a mod to discuss it. But you can't be responding online to a troll and reporting them--ignore and report. Let the mods deal with them.
    @Chris...this would not be behind anyone's back. It would be right out in the open.

    Currently you can report all day long, but the troll is still here. They either get thread banned, or the whole thread gets moved to the Hole...BUT THEY ARE STILL HERE.

    My proposal would get rid of them by an 80% popular vote.

    Currently there is no way to get rid of a troll who stays within the rules, but offends damb near the entire membership.

    We should be able to take matters into our own hands and kick them out of our community.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Retirednsmilin308 View Post
    @Chris...this would not be behind anyone's back. It would be right out in the open.

    Currently you can report all day long, but the troll is still here. They either get thread banned, or the whole thread gets moved to the Hole...BUT THEY ARE STILL HERE.

    My proposal would get rid of them by an 80% popular vote.

    Currently there is no way to get rid of a troll who stays within the rules, but offends damb near the entire membership.

    We should be able to take matters into our own hands and kick them out of our community.

    Behind the back was just VIP room.

    It takes time to get rid of trolls and with good reason: Too many think that being offensive is trolliing when it's not.

    The forum's no trolling rule isn't very good. I would define trolling as being inflammatory with no intentiion to discuss it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Behind the back was just VIP room.

    It takes time to get rid of trolls and with good reason: Too many think that being offensive is trolliing when it's not.

    The forum's no trolling rule isn't very good. I would define trolling as being inflammatory with no intentiion to discuss it.

    I share your definition.

    Think about it.

    If someone is miserable and hateful, and has a chip on their shoulder....and only insults and offends members or all leans...

    Why should we put up with them ?

    I say we should NOT have to put up with them, and throw their asses over the side.

    ...by an 80% majority vote of at least 10 members or more.

    If they want to be miserable and spread it wherever they go, then let them be miserable somewhere else.



    Remember...it will only get worse in the next few months if we do not put this into place soon.
    Guaranteed, there will be more of them...much more.
    Last edited by Retirednsmilin308; 12-13-2021 at 10:38 AM.
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