Why the hate for trump is so out of proportion

[Common Sense]

Like I said. I was more concerned with the results he got.

Just like I’m more concerned about the results our current president is getting.



You are one of those who ignored results and goes on emotions.

It has nothing to do with emotions. Trump was handed a booming economy and in fact his economic record just stayed on the trend of Obama’s last term. The only real tangible results he was responsible for, were all the conservative judges he nominated. He attempted some criminal Justice reform, but beyond that, he just gave huge tax cuts to the wealthy (resulting in huge deficits and increased inflation) stripped environmental protections and built a few miles of a wall that Mexico never paid for. His so called results are largely overshadowed by his failures.

While I’m not a huge fan of Biden, he was handed Trump’s declining economy, inflation and a mishandled pandemic. But compared to Trump, he’s a distinguished statesman and not a clownish buffoon.

[Tahuyaman]

It has nothing to do with emotions. Trump was handed a booming economy and in fact his economic record just stayed on the trend of Obama’s last term. The only real tangible results he was responsible for, were all the conservative judges he nominated. He attempted some criminal Justice reform, but beyond that, he just gave huge tax cuts to the wealthy (resulting in huge deficits and increased inflation) stripped environmental protections and built a few miles of a wall that Mexico never paid for. His so called results are largely overshadowed by his failures.

While I’m not a huge fan of Biden, he was handed Trump’s declining economy, inflation and a mishandled pandemic. But compared to Trump, he’s a distinguished statesman and not a clownish buffoon.

Trump was not handed a booming economy. He was handed a underperforming economy. Obama was the only two term president who never saw at least 3% annual growth in GDP.

Trump did not shut down the US economy. Governors did that.



You go strictly of feelings.

[donttread]

People are very critical of Trump because he was an incompetent embarrassment to the office of president and to America itself.

He claimed he would drain the swamp, yet filled his cabinet with shady criminals. He purposely preyed on the fears and ignorance of the working class and the undereducated. He placated and pandered to the far right, white nationalists and conspiracy theorists. He shunned America’s traditional allies and placated enemies like Russia and NK. He gutted important environmental protections. He conned the working class into giving the uber wealthy enormous tax cut….leading to massive deficits and increased debt. He completely mishandled both Covid and the social movements under his term. He emboldened idiotic conspiracy theorists and even tried to overturn a fair election with lies and ridiculous conspiracy theories.

Beyond all of those failings, he was just a weird, tacky man child who said creepy things about his daughter and literally thousands of lies. Anyone with a lick of sense should have been embarrassed for him and America. Yet so many gobbled up his bull$#@! and asked for more. Who knew people could be so gullible and so easily manipulated.

Say what you will but his move to lower corporate income taxes resulted in a new focus on making stuff right here at home and created a black unemployment rate far lower than the one Obama was praised for. His policies led to energy independence and the people felt heard. Those are real acheivements how many has Biden produced? Pre cOVID his deficit was very similar to Obama's. He was critized for banning flights from China by the same politicians who later critized him for not acting sooner! Look it up try "come to Chinatown" The 2020 election was made to be challenged by ludicrious mail in ballot policy.

[Jeb!]

People are very critical of Trump because he was an incompetent embarrassment to the office of president and to America itself.

As a non-American, you aren't qualified to speak about what's embarrassing to us as Americans. Now, with that being said, Biden farting in front of the queen of Wales, pooping his pants in a meeting with the pope, and having a son who films himself in porn is actually embarrassing to the United States.

He claimed he would drain the swamp, yet filled his cabinet with shady criminals. He purposely preyed on the fears and ignorance of the working class and the undereducated. He placated and pandered to the far right, white nationalists and conspiracy theorists. He shunned America’s traditional allies and placated enemies like Russia and NK. He gutted important environmental protections. He conned the working class into giving the uber wealthy enormous tax cut….leading to massive deficits and increased debt.

Trump said he was going to cut taxes during his run in 2015/2016. Doing what you said you were going to do is not "conning" someone. You just wanted to imply that the working class are stupid.

He completely mishandled both Covid and the social movements under his term.

Is that a fact? Biden is going to surpass Trump in COVID deaths very soon.

He emboldened idiotic conspiracy theorists and even tried to overturn a fair election with lies and ridiculous conspiracy theories.

Democrats did exactly that after the 2016 election.

Beyond all of those failings, he was just a weird, tacky man child who said creepy things about his daughter and literally thousands of lies. Anyone with a lick of sense should have been embarrassed for him and America. Yet so many gobbled up his bull$#@! and asked for more. Who knew people could be so gullible and so easily manipulated.

I'll take more of the "bull$#@!". We were doing much better.

[RMNIXON]

In 2016 I didn’t vote for Trump. That had nothing to do with him being an outsider. With me, being an outsider is a good thing.

I disliked his buffoonish nature while he was campaigning Especially during the debates. I didn’t think he had the temperament or class to be a US president. I also didn’t think he held any true conservative views. I didn’t believe that he understood what conservatism is all about. I think he started to figure out conservatism as he progressed in office.

One he won, after a brief moment of shock, I accepted it and hoped for the best. Part of the reason I started to change my view of him was because of the absolute irrational reaction from the left and the fact that this didn’t seem to deter him at all.

Then once he started to get the positive results from his policies, I came to overlook his buffoonery and supported him.

Now we have a president who’s also a buffoon, but he gets negative results.

That is one of the most Honest posts I have read in this Forum and I have new respect for you saying this!

[RMNIXON]

Like I said. I was more concerned with the results he got.

Just like I’m more concerned about the results our current president is getting.



You are one of those who ignored results and goes on emotions.

And one reason I have been concerned about the Office becoming a "Feel good" about the President contest rather than the best Administrator for the job. I had early reservations about Trump's blunt manner myself, but I saw through that eventually compared to what Hillary would have been (A total handout job for Clinton and Obama cronies spanning over 20 years).

[donttread]

Like I said. I was more concerned with the results he got.

Just like I’m more concerned about the results our current president is getting.



You are one of those who ignored results and goes on emotions.

Bingo. That's why his post featured zero specifics

[Tahuyaman]

Say what you will but his move to lower corporate income taxes resulted in a new focus on making stuff right here at home and created a black unemployment rate far lower than the one Obama was praised for. His policies led to energy independence and the people felt heard. Those are real acheivements how many has Biden produced? Pre cOVID his deficit was very similar to Obama's. He was critized for banning flights from China by the same politicians who later critized him for not acting sooner! Look it up try "come to Chinatown" The 2020 election was made to be challenged by ludicrious mail in ballot policy.

Obama was not praised for doing anything about the black unemployment rate. Just the opposite. Most people expressed didappointment over Obama's performance in that area.

I find the attempts by the left to revise history concerning the results of the Obama administration quite humorous. Obama was a horrible president.

[RMNIXON]

Trump was not handed a booming economy. He was handed a underperforming economy. Obama was the only two term president who never saw at least 3% annual growth in GDP.

Trump did not shut down the US economy. Governors did that.



You go strictly of feelings.

It was the worst performing Recession recovery since WWII. The only way that happens is deliberate with oppressive economic policy, tax policy, over regulation, and Obamacare mandates when small business was trying to recover.

All Trump had to do was cut that cord and the American People did the recovery. COVID was an outside intrusion and looking at the 2020 election numbers it is clear Trump would have had a landslide victory without that happening.

[donttread]

I don’t know what you mean by “a real R.” I my mind real Republican is a constitutional conservative. The GOP gradually drifted away from that.

Semantic differences only. I see the Main Stream GOP as just another wing of the two party disaster. Then I see Libertarians as the answer. But all I really meant here was that trump is not really a republician.