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    The defendant chose not guilty.
    "The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government - lest it come to dominate our lives and interests." - Patrick Henry

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    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    There was no sedition either was there…

    Now there is…
    No. Only a claim a year later after the Biden admin hammered the DOJ to find something, anything. This is simply political harassment using the power of government and the left, as usual, believes anything a democrat says even when patently wrong and believes in guilty until proven innocent.
    You thought your job was bad?Imagine being Justin Trudeau’s gynaecologist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Private Pickle View Post
    I just quoted you where you claimed to be an expert...
    I do have to wonder if there should be a rule against blatantly lying about what another member has said.

    Your military experience is laughable.
    I see you are still quite unhinged. I'm not sure why I cause some people to become so unglued.

    Just as mine is. It gives you zero right to pass judgment on a use of force case. Just because you were issued ROE (and never had to use them) gives you zero experience in use of force.
    It's not an issue of being an "expert" or having the "right to pass judgment". Those are just your strawmen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense View Post
    No, because none of that experience is relevant to the the validity of the shooting.
    Yes, you keep asserting this. But you still haven't explained WHY it's not relevant.

    Military rules of engagement are far different than law enforcement.
    How would you know the difference between military ROE and law enforcement ROE?

    Knowledge of firearms isn’t the same as a knowledge of police procedures.
    Where did I say or imply that it was?

    Even if you’ve studied and researched police procedures, your opinions won’t be a valid as someone who is actually trained and accredited.
    I am "trained and accredited" in the use of force by the US military. It was my specialization.

    While a person who has read about medicine extensively and who has experience as let’s say a firefighter, would have more knowledge than your average person, his credibility will not exceed an actual medical doctor. Claiming otherwise just wouldn’t make sense.

    An expert is someone who is educated and accredited in their specific field. An expert can also be someone who has mastered a skill or discipline to the point of being an authority. Words have meanings and expert refers to someone with accreditation and authoritative knowledge.
    Again, I am not the one arguing "expertise" here, you are. You keep using the word "expert" because it's so subjective and so easy to manipulate. You and little PP will just define "expert" to mean whatever you want it to mean, just like you do with the term "conspiracy theory". You cannot make a real argument, so you just make appeals to authority and traffic in meaningless jargon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLiquidGuy View Post
    We are talking about sedition.
    Reckon what that "seditious conspiracy" was all about ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    I do have to wonder if there should be a rule against blatantly lying about what another member has said.



    I see you are still quite unhinged. I'm not sure why I cause some people to become so unglued.



    It's not an issue of being an "expert" or having the "right to pass judgment". Those are just your strawmen.
    Notice you didn’t actually argue any of the points. You just attacked me. Not surprising because you can’t argue any of the points given they are all true. But everyone here knows your M.O.

    At this point you’re just trying to save face.
    I find your lack of faith...disturbing...

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