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    Quote Originally Posted by PJL View Post
    It's now almost universally accepted that the low mentality , intellectually challenged right wing Americans will always have an extremely high opinion of themselves , and a poor ( but inaccurate ) opinion of anyone who isn't one of them . Any country that is a capable of voting a loudmouthed silver-spooner billionaire into office as president , certainly has some deep deep , psycological and insecurity problems to deal with .
    Oh there's someone intellectually challenged here alright, but it's not the Americans. I would point out that...

    1) your precious President Putin actively championed, and at minimum sought to directly and illegally aid, the presidential election of Donald Trump, favoring him over Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden respectively, and also that...

    2) Trump has also consistently polled much better in Russia than in this country. Like by double-digit percentages. Over here, he lost the popular vote in both elections.

    So...what's your point again?
    Last edited by IMPress Polly; 01-15-2022 at 02:35 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IMPress Polly View Post
    Oh there's someone intellectually challenged here alright, but it's not the Americans. I would point out that...

    1) your precious President Putin actively championed, and at minimum sought to directly and illegally aid, the presidential election of Donald Trump, favoring him over Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden respectively, and also that...

    2) Trump has also consistently polled much better in Russia than in this country. Like by double-digit percentages. Over here, he lost the popular vote in both elections.

    So...what's your point again?
    It’s hilarious when both the right and left here ridicule this guy. At least we can all agree on something.

    I think he’s either completely delusional and has bought into anything that discredits the west, even if that means supporting a tyrant. Or that he’s one of the most unsophisticated Russian trolls they’ve ever produced. Maybe some beta version?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense View Post
    I’m Canadian, not American. While I understand that the US and the west in general is guilty of horrible things, I don’t get how you’ve completely embraced Russia. Russia is also guilty of starting wars and asserting its influence in the Middle East. They’re also expansionist and domestically, Putin himself has engaged in very shady behaviour. From oppressing the lgbtq community, to literally assassinating his political rivals and journalists. I honestly don’t understand how anyone can support him. If you truly oppose tyranny, manipulation, colonialism and corruption, you’d oppose both the US and Russia. Yet you regurgitate Putin’s propaganda without any hesitation.
    What I embrace is the new multipolar world . It's a better way to keep the peace , support the global economy , and share the prosperity . As the dominant country since the end of WWII , America has failed on all 3 . The only way the US can keep itself prosperous , is by keeping as many other countries poor and destabilized as possible , so it can exploit them . The old colonialist countries are much the same.......it's just not good enough and it's starting to drag the whole of humanity backwards .
    America in the 21st century is struggling to manage it's own affairs , let alone dictate anything to other countries .
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    Quote Originally Posted by PJL View Post
    I don't believe any country is capable of blowing up the Nordstream2..........no doubt the US has thought about it, but they would fail and pay a high cost if they attempted . Besides , Europe will eventually approve it , against US wishes , and there's nothing the US could do about it but sulk.
    No country is capable of blowing up the Nord Stream?

    lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by PJL View Post
    It's now almost universally accepted that the low mentality , intellectually challenged right wing Americans will always have an extremely high opinion of themselves , and a poor ( but inaccurate ) opinion of anyone who isn't one of them . Any country that is a capable of voting a loudmouthed silver-spooner billionaire into office as president , certainly has some deep deep , psycological and insecurity problems to deal with .
    lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by PJL View Post
    What I embrace is the new multipolar world . It's a better way to keep the peace , support the global economy , and share the prosperity . As the dominant country since the end of WWII , America has failed on all 3 . The only way the US can keep itself prosperous , is by keeping as many other countries poor and destabilized as possible , so it can exploit them . The old colonialist countries are much the same.......it's just not good enough and it's starting to drag the whole a humanity backwards .
    America in the 21st century is struggling to manage it's own affairs , let alone dictate anything to other countries .
    You don't understand the multi-polar world. Accepting the Russian and Chinese propaganda regarding international realities is the cause of our misunderstanding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    You don't understand the multi-polar world. Accepting the Russian and Chinese propaganda regarding international realities is the cause of our misunderstanding.
    You are only permitted to view the world from a US perspective . Therefore , it's you who doesn't understand the multi-polar world . In time you will come to understand it , because it's here , and it's not going to change back to what it was.......it's only going to gain momentum as it continues to go forward , and more and more countries and regions embrace it .

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJL View Post
    What I embrace is the new multipolar world . It's a better way to keep the peace , support the global economy , and share the prosperity . As the dominant country since the end of WWII , America has failed on all 3 . The only way the US can keep itself prosperous , is by keeping as many other countries poor and destabilized as possible , so it can exploit them . The old colonialist countries are much the same.......it's just not good enough and it's starting to drag the whole of humanity backwards .
    America in the 21st century is struggling to manage it's own affairs , let alone dictate anything to other countries .
    That doesn’t explain why you vehemently support Putin. Just because he’s opposed to the US?

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    Polly = Right wing. Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by PJL View Post
    You are only permitted to view the world from a US perspective . Therefore , it's you who doesn't understand the multi-polar world . In time you will come to understand it , because it's here , and it's not going to change back to what it was.......it's only going to gain momentum as it continues to go forward , and more and more countries and regions embrace it .
    Stupid and untrue.

    I study geopolitics to understand international relations in the 21st century. You stating that is equal to the US perspective is like the Woke claiming that hard work is white supremacy.
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