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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    I think you misunderstood. NATO has not voted overwhelmingly or otherwise to bring in Ukraine. I do know that Ukraine has applied to join the European Union. That's not NATO.

    As far as walking out on the Russian foreign minister goes, that's just an act of symbolism / protest. It makes no impact upon Russian military activity.
    It is certainly possible that i have misunderstood--it would not represent a first for me--but I really do not think that this is the case, in this particular instance.

    Perhaps we will learn more about the matter on the news, later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by RMNIXON View Post
    I am not seeing where NATO has made Ukraine a member although they did pledge military support and assistance today. Does anyone have a link?
    It was actually the European Union not NATO.

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    Want a war with Russia? Admit Ukraine to NATO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hanger4 View Post
    It was actually the European Union not NATO.
    And I am reading that requires unanimous approval and some economic commitments they might not want to make?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RMNIXON View Post
    And I am reading that requires unanimous approval and some economic commitments they might not want to make?
    This is how wars start. Big balls and no thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RMNIXON View Post
    And I am reading that requires unanimous approval and some economic commitments they might not want to make?
    What the EU voted on was to accept the request to join.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fre...union-accepted

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    Quote Originally Posted by pjohns View Post
    It is certainly possible that i have misunderstood--it would not represent a first for me--but I really do not think that this is the case, in this particular instance.

    Perhaps we will learn more about the matter on the news, later.
    There doesn't look to be anything new to learn. NATO has not voted to include Ukraine and doing that at this time would be akin to every NATO nation declaring war on Russia, If NATO was apt to bring in Ukraine, that should have happened long before this situation developed.

    Would that lead to a nuclear exchange? I tend to doubt it, but if the reports of Putin's mental state are accurate, anything is possible.
    Last edited by Tahuyaman; 03-01-2022 at 02:56 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    So who here is volunteering to go fight the Russians? Or are you just going to send a bunch of dumb teenagers to do it for you?
    I'm sending toys and care packages for the kids.I feel so sorry for them . Its a shame this is even taking place .For months putin has requested an agreement that Ukraine would not join NATO.Fell on deaf ears so here we are.Inocent people being killed.
    Last edited by montana; 03-01-2022 at 03:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hanger4 View Post
    Since 2.3% of the military is 18-19 years old and 6mos to year to make corporal you do the math. And don't forget Sergeants as boots on the ground along with First and Second Lewies.
    I don't need to do the math. I was in the infantry for four years. Most of the privates who actually have "boots on the ground" are between 18 and 22. They are the ones who do most of the fighting and the dying in wars. I think you know this.
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