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    Exclamation Why is the U.S. going back to death by firing squad?...

    Why is the U.S. going back to death by firing squad?...

    Full disclosure: I oppose the death penalty.


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    The last time the U.S. executed a death row inmate by firing squad was only 12 years ago. At the time, Ronnie Lee Gardner was given a choice as punishment for shooting and killing an attorney and wounding a bailiff as he attempted to escape from a Salt Lake City courthouse: die by lethal injection or firing squad. He chose the latter. “I like the firing squad,” he told a local paper, according to the New York Times. “It’s so much easier ... and there’s no mistakes.” That’s not entirely true. Initially, almost no details were reported about Eliseo Mares’ 1951 firing squad execution in Utah for murdering a traveling soldier. Almost 25 years later, however, an eyewitness spoke up to say that Mares died “silently and horribly” when the shooters, positioned just 15 feet away, missed his heart and hit him in the hip and abdomen instead. Several minutes passed before Mares bled to death.

    Since the death penalty was reinstated in the U.S. in 1976, only three executions by firing squad have taken place, none of them as gruesome as Mares’. But the method is experiencing the beginnings of a resurgence, largely because lethal injection is no longer as reliable, for a variety of reasons. Though Utah remains the only state to have used a firing squad in the past century, Oklahoma and Mississippi also formally adopted the method of execution in 2010.

    Now, South Carolina plans to carry out its first execution by firing squad: Three prison-volunteers, all armed with live bullets, will shoot at a target over Richard Moore’s heart from 15 feet away—the same distance as the gunmen who missed the target on Mares.

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    https://www.vice.com/en/article/m7vy...y-firing-squad
    Last edited by DGUtley; 04-27-2022 at 10:15 AM.
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    I find the story interesting. But I don't care how killers choose to die. Pick one.
    I am tired of everyone fighting with each other. This is all by design.

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    I snipped this from the OP link, and I think it's a lie.

    Since the death penalty was reinstated in the U.S. in 1976, only three executions by firing squad have taken place, none of them as gruesome as Mares’. But the method is experiencing the beginnings of a resurgence, largely because lethal injection is no longer as reliable, for a variety of reasons. Though Utah remains the only state to have used a firing squad in the past century, Oklahoma and Mississippi also formally adopted the method of execution in 2010.
    Anyone who has had the sad experience of having a pet put down knows the drugs work. I've unfortunately had to go that route more than one with Saint Bernards who weighed in near 200 pounds.

    It's effective and it doesn't have to be painful.

    I think the firing squad is ridiculous and should not be used. I know some prisoners choose it but it shouldn't be an option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FindersKeepers View Post
    I snipped this from the OP link, and I think it's a lie. Anyone who has had the sad experience of having a pet put down knows the drugs work. I've unfortunately had to go that route more than one with Saint Bernards who weighed in near 200 pounds. It's effective and it doesn't have to be painful. I think the firing squad is ridiculous and should not be used. I know some prisoners choose it but it shouldn't be an option.
    https://www-sup.stanford.edu/books/title/?id=35871

    https://www.wired.com/2007/04/lethal-injectio/

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...042400253.html

    Even when administered properly, the three-drug lethal injection method appears to have caused some inmates to suffocate while they were conscious and unable to move, instead of having their hearts stopped while they were sedated, scientists said in a report published Monday by the online journal PLoS Medicine.


    https://theconversation.com/why-neva...nethical-87221
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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    https://www-sup.stanford.edu/books/title/?id=35871

    https://www.wired.com/2007/04/lethal-injectio/

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...042400253.html

    Even when administered properly, the three-drug lethal injection method appears to have caused some inmates to suffocate while they were conscious and unable to move, instead of having their hearts stopped while they were sedated, scientists said in a report published Monday by the online journal PLoS Medicine.


    https://theconversation.com/why-neva...nethical-87221
    Then they should change to the drugs used to put animals down. There's no reason in this day and age for those things to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FindersKeepers View Post
    Then they should change to the drugs used to put animals down. There's no reason in this day and age for those things to happen.
    A bullet is cheap, effective, and humane. Why make it more complicated than that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FindersKeepers View Post
    Then they should change to the drugs used to put animals down. There's no reason in this day and age for those things to happen.
    Maybe those drugs aren't approved to put humans down.
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    Plus, we are good shots in South Carolina.

    Now in Chicago where an average weekend is 7 dead and 450 wounded, maybe not a good idea based on their inability to hit their target.
    Let's go Brandon !!!

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    In the Old West being shot in the chest was considered a quick death.

    A shot in the gut the most painful and can take hours to die...............
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    There is only one good reason to object to the death penalty and that is the possibility of error. I have no problem at all with it in principle. Anyway, "modern" methods of execution seem kind of bizarre to me. A firing squad seems much more direct and humane.
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