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    Quote Originally Posted by Orion Rules View Post
    A misunderstanding. Those persecuted, imprisoned, tortured, murdered who personally witnessed Christ's teachings, or heard of the pure things Christ taught, did not persecute, but paid the price with their lives as they gave up comfort and "safety" for the faith Christ shared.
    You do understand that most wars ever fought were in the name of religion don't you ?
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    I have a problem with the 'story' of Adam and Eve and that we were all born out of incest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Lily View Post
    I have a problem with the 'story' of Adam and Eve and that we were all born out of incest.
    Here is an interesting piece about the origin of the story of Adam and Eve: The real story of Adam and Eve and the Garden of Eden – Shaman of Avalon (anniedieuleveut.com)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cotton1 View Post
    You do understand that most wars ever fought were in the name of religion don't you ?
    Sure, the beast system of authoritarians have waged wars, to how much was actually over economics, resources, politics, vanity, personal power.

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion Rules View Post
    Were church buildings needed, or is fellowship where a community lives? Many churches are beautiful edifices but is not the church Christian believers?

    In the beginning what was the church like suffering great persecution, their writings of what Jesus taught confiscated by a beast system of authoritarians.
    Plant farms and animal sanctuaries with just compensation: Genesis 1:29-30, 2-3, Lev. 24:18-22, Psalm 50, Isaiah 1, 11:6-9, 65, 66, Daniel 1, Hosea 2:18, Revelation 20-22.

    Creation of horses: Zechariah 6:1-8, 14:20. Wild Horses, burros persecuted, parted out in violation of Public Law 92-195:
    https://twitter.com/WildHorseEdu

    Jesus was a Vegetarian: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx6J6jh1Dzo

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    Originally Posted by Cotton1
    You do understand that most wars ever fought were in the name of religion don't you ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion Rules View Post
    Sure, the beast system of authoritarians have waged wars, to how much was actually over economics, resources, politics, vanity, personal power.
    Most wars were for political and economic reasons. Religion is often used to rile up the masses who will do the fighting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orion Rules View Post
    Sure, the beast system of authoritarians have waged wars, to how much was actually over economics, resources, politics, vanity, personal power.
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Most wars were for political and economic reasons. Religion is often used to rile up the masses who will do the fighting.
    That is correct.
    Plant farms and animal sanctuaries with just compensation: Genesis 1:29-30, 2-3, Lev. 24:18-22, Psalm 50, Isaiah 1, 11:6-9, 65, 66, Daniel 1, Hosea 2:18, Revelation 20-22.

    Creation of horses: Zechariah 6:1-8, 14:20. Wild Horses, burros persecuted, parted out in violation of Public Law 92-195:
    https://twitter.com/WildHorseEdu

    Jesus was a Vegetarian: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx6J6jh1Dzo

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    I was given the great gift to accept and believe in the Catholic Church’s teachings. The teachings make sense to me. I’m no theologian and can’t comprehend the great mysteries, but faith and hope (as well as a Catholic education) give me confidence that we’re here for a purpose-to serve God.
    Of course, the majority of my life was misspent serving/abusing myself, deferring to my pride, doing what I want, not what God wants.

    As I close in on year 70, it’s becoming a bit easier to try and look past the world’s trials and tribulations, with the hope of sharing in the eternal, divine nature which God offers, purchased for us through the Life and death of his begotten son, Jesus.

    All the answers anyone seeks are available.

    Here’s a great talk on “why there is something rather than nothing”.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NapRover View Post
    I was given the great gift to accept and believe in the Catholic Church’s teachings. The teachings make sense to me. I’m no theologian and can’t comprehend the great mysteries, but faith and hope (as well as a Catholic education) give me confidence that we’re here for a purpose-to serve God.
    Of course, the majority of my life was misspent serving/abusing myself, deferring to my pride, doing what I want, not what God wants.

    As I close in on year 70, it’s becoming a bit easier to try and look past the world’s trials and tribulations, with the hope of sharing in the eternal, divine nature which God offers, purchased for us through the Life and death of his begotten son, Jesus.

    All the answers anyone seeks are available.

    Here’s a great talk on “why there is something rather than nothing”.
    Why would a real god need to be served?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    Why would a real god need to be served?
    Why assume that he needs anything? By serving him during our life, by serving others, we justify ourselves worthy to join him in heaven. We’re created with a divine nature in our future, one way or another, we ourselves make the choice as to how and where we’ll spend it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Lily View Post
    I have a problem with the 'story' of Adam and Eve and that we were all born out of incest.
    The lefts theory is that Adam and Eve were some type of fish that crawled out of a pond in Africa. Same concept that required fish incest.

    But don't forget that the entire cycle started over again when Noah found land with only his family on board and alive in the world.

    I think it should be okay to say that we really don't know.


    Maybe we can get Kamala to do some filmed book readings for us.
    She could adapt Dr. Seuss's "One Fish, Two Fish, Red Fish, Blue Fish"
    Let's go Brandon !!!

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