Undermining Christianity Is The Central Project Of The Political Left

[Mister D]

How is it a gotcha? God's knowledge of the fetus and the significance that is attached to that notion also applies to those that are miscarried. Thus, does God's knowledge of the fetus imply any intention regarding its future existence?

Miscarriages were mentioned several times as if they had relevance. The idea seemed to be that God done it and if you object to abortion how do explain that. If that's not your intent, Old Guy gave the correct answer.

[Chris]

Not a gotcha but an observation and a question. Not one that you can answer.

Nor one you can explain. Like so many other things, something you read somewhere and merely repeat.

[Dr. Who]

Nor one you can explain. Like so many other things, something you read somewhere and merely repeat.

What did I repeat?

[Chris]

What did I repeat?

Why the miscarriage gotcha. Do you so soon forget?

[Mister D]

From a historical perspective, undermining Christianity was a central project of the left. That's not debatable. Why is it so hard to believe that is still the case?

[Dr. Who]

Why the miscarriage gotcha. Do you so soon forget?

In Jeremiah God says He knew you before you were born. There are also other passages that indicate God created you and knew you before you were fully formed.In Psalm 139, the psalmist says to God: “Thou didst see my limbs unformed in the womb, and in thy book they are all recorded.” “It is extremely powerful, the idea in this psalm, that in this 'unformed' embryo God already sees the whole future,”

That's just silly. I read the two biblical references posted by Old Guy (quoted above) and it immediately prompted the observation that they apply whether there is a live birth or a miscarriage but they don't express any intent. Only God's knowledge. Since God is omniscient there is nothing He doesn't know, past, present or future, so those pieces of scripture don't really convey anything more than that.

[Chris]

That's just silly. I read the two biblical references posted by Old Guy (quoted above) and it immediately prompted the observation that they apply whether there is a live birth or a miscarriage but they don't express any intent. Only God's knowledge. Since God is omniscient there is nothing He doesn't know, past, present or future, so those pieces of scripture don't really convey anything more than that.

Your argument presupposes the existence of God.

[Chris]

From a historical perspective, undermining Christianity was a central project of the left. That's not debatable. Why is it so hard to believe that is still the case?

It's seen even here in this thread.

[Dr. Who]

Your argument presupposes the existence of God.

The quoted pieces of scripture presuppose the existence of God. I confined my argument to the material presented.

[Chris]

The quoted pieces of scripture presuppose the existence of God. I confined my argument to the material presented.

“Thou didst see my limbs unformed in the womb, and in thy book they are all recorded.” comes from the Psalm.

“It is extremely powerful, the idea in this psalm, that in this 'unformed' embryo God already sees the whole future,” is Pope Benedict. See https://www.irishtimes.com/news/pope...enedict%20said.

It says nothing about miscarriages. You added that:

Then he also knew or knows every fetus that is miscarried.

And you add all this about intent and knowledge and omniscience.

...but they don't express any intent. Only God's knowledge. Since God is omniscient there is nothing He doesn't know, past, present or future, so those pieces of scripture don't really convey anything more than that.

So I ask again, do you accept the existence of God? If you do not then your argument is more than faulty, it is disingenuous.