We're getting closer to a very dangerous war.

[carolina73]

The current crew of top generals are lackeys waiting for their pension and leaving all their troops out to dry. Worst group of military leadership ive ever seen...in their defense, they feel they have to go along with the worst adminstration in our history, or lose their pension possibly...Biden and company are vicious

The same groups of characters under Obama that told troops that if they want to shoot back then they need to call the lawyers in DC first for permission.

[FindersKeepers]

I agree that US officials shouldn't be bragging about taking out Russian generals etc (if they are in fact doing that). But, a NYT opinion piece? I guess you've finally given up on all pretense. I prefer that, it's good that you're finally being honest about being a flaming left winger.

So, a person who cites an NYT opinion piece is a "flaming left winger?"

Good golly, CB, you do have some deep-seated insecurities.

To top it off, you actually agreed with the opinion piece that US officials should not be bragging. But, go figure...

Attacking the messenger (NYT) is a fallacy. It's what's known as an ad hominem attack because it ignores the context of the message, and instead, tries to attack the messenger.

If you want to have any credibility here--or anywhere--you have to learn how to debate the message. Not fall prey to ad hom attacks.

[Peter1469]

I would also add that Finland has asked for NATO membership ASAP. Russia just said that is a problem.

The same problem that caused Russia to attack Ukraine. NATO expansion into its world.

However, it is an empty threat. Russia has no conventional means to threaten Finland. It has been bogged down in Ukraine.

[Tahuyaman]

...just slipping these 10s of billions of dollars worth of aid with no debate or discussion."

10 billion here....30 billion there and another 25 billion.... That adds up. Pretty soon you're talking about some serious money.

[The Xl]

We are run by a bunch of criminals not operating in the best interests of America or its people. It has been this way for a very, very long time.

[Captdon]

I would also add that Finland has asked for NATO membership ASAP. Russia just said that is a problem.

The same problem that caused Russia to attack Ukraine. NATO expansion into its world.

However, it is an empty threat. Russia has no conventional means to threaten Finland. It has been bogged down in Ukraine.

Russia attacked to prevent Ukrainia from doing what it couldn't do?

[MisterVeritis]

Whatever you think is happening, we are in a war with Russia.

[Jen]

Understand that if the war in Ukraine expands to the West, it will be the fault of the Biden Administration and the holdovers from the Obama Administration that have been meddling there for nearly a decade.

Someone with a brain needs to call Biden down, but the Democrats don't seem willing.



https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/06/o...ine-leaks.html

Biden isn't the person who needs to be called down. On any given day, he might not even be aware that there is a war going on in Ukraine.

The person who needs to be called down is whoever is telling Biden what to do, and I have a suspicion that THAT person knows exactly what he/she is doing and it's not necessarily beneficial to the USA.

[MisterVeritis]

Biden isn't the person who needs to be called down. On any given day, he might not even be aware that there is a war going on in Ukraine.

The person who needs to be called down is whoever is telling Biden what to do, and I have a suspicion that THAT person knows exactly what he/she is doing and it's not necessarily beneficial to the USA.

The name on the tip of your tongue is Obama. This is his third, damaging term.

[Orion Rules]

NATO HQ: Ukraine to join NATO, build new naval bases in Azov, Black Seas

February 11, 2021

The U.S. embassy in Ukraine was cited yesterday as confirming that “U.S. Navy Porter and Donald Cook depart[ed] the Black Sea following 17 days of operations alongside NATO Allies and partners: Ukraine, Romania, Georgia, Turkey.” The quote was included to establish, tersely, that two American guided-missile warships, both equipped with Standard Missile-3 Block IIA interceptor missiles capable of shooting down Russian missiles, had spent weeks in Russia’s backyard drilling for future military action. In fact Russia’s Black Sea Fleet, the country’s naval lifeline to the Mediterranean Sea, is based at Sevastopol on the Black Sea.
[...]

-Mr. Stoltenberg- :

“NATO’s door remains open. We have in a very successful way, step by step, invited new countries to join the Alliance and just over the last couple of years. NATO has been enlarged with Monte$#@!, and North Macedonia and NATO made a decision, back in 2008, about the membership of Ukraine.

“We stand by that decision and all subsequent decisions following that Summit. I was actually present at that Summit back in 2008, and as I said, NATO has reiterated the decision."

[...]

“Ukraine is recognised as a candidate for NATO membership. NATO allies help and support Ukrainian efforts to join the Alliance.”

The Ukrainian prime minister also responded to the question:

“I would like to add also with my answer. Well first of all, when we talk about the future the perspective and the aspirations of Ukraine, of course the NATO membership for Ukraine is a key priority, it is reflected in our Constitution. And we discussed it with the Secretary General, and we are absolutely ready."

https://antibellum679354512.wordpres...zov-black-sea/


Ukraine President signs Constitutional Amendment On NATO, EU Membership

February 19, 2019

[...]

Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko has signed a constitutional amendment committing the country to becoming a member of NATO and the European Union.

Addressing parliament on February 19, Poroshenko said he saw securing Ukraine's membership in NATO and the EU as his "strategic mission."

Ukraine should "submit a request for EU membership and receive a NATO membership action plan no later than 2023," the president told the Verkhovna Rada.

https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-pres.../29779430.html