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    Quote Originally Posted by RMNIXON View Post
    When you read the fine print very little goes to small business or even tax payers in general. Much of it is wealth redistribution handouts and will be inflationary when all this money is being doled out and spent by otherwise non-productive people in this State.

    Totally unsustainable!

    Those bullet points appear to be picked for their ability to be vague and subjective. Sounds like politics as usual. Let's see how we can do with suggestions?
    • Providing immediate relief to Californians hit hardest by the pandemic
    • Confronting homelessness and the housing affordability crisis
    • Transforming public schools into gateways of opportunity
    • Bolstering wildfire resilience and tackling climate change
    • Building the infrastructure of the next century
    #1) See number 2 and 3
    #2) About time maybe you could back off on landlord rules so the market can help fix this. The cost of housing is ridiculous and like most everything these days NOT operating in a truly free market#3) Get out of the parents way
    #4) Back burn and live out there at your own risk policy
    #5) Yeah, that's the kind of thing you are actually supposed to do with the citizen's tax money

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    It depends on what they spend it on. Using rate of return (ROI) compare the Apollo Program (26:1) with welfare spending (0.67-1).

    There may be exceptions but they only serve to prove the rule. How was that 26:1 calculated? Spin off inventions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abby08 View Post
    Many, like my sister, are ignorant of the facts, she for one, thinks as long as she's able to buy food and pay her bills, she'll not worry about what the politicians are doing, it's a classic case of, "if I don't know about it, it can't hurt me."

    I'm the one, who's always telling HER, about what's going on in California.
    If she is happy with lower Blood Pressure than we are maybe she is on to something?

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    My guess about most Californians is that they would get down on their knees and beg the state to take more of their money. With the exception of RMNixon, of course, who I believe lives in California.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    Those bullet points appear to be picked for their ability to be vague and subjective. Sounds like politics as usual. Let's see how we can do with suggestions?
    • Providing immediate relief to Californians hit hardest by the pandemic
    • Confronting homelessness and the housing affordability crisis
    • Transforming public schools into gateways of opportunity
    • Bolstering wildfire resilience and tackling climate change
    • Building the infrastructure of the next century
    #1) See number 2 and 3
    #2) About time maybe you could back off on landlord rules so the market can help fix this. The cost of housing is ridiculous and like most everything these days NOT operating in a truly free market#3) Get out of the parents way
    #4) Back burn and live out there at your own risk policy
    #5) Yeah, that's the kind of thing you are actually supposed to do with the citizen's tax money
    Then they pretend that is not in the budget already.
    So they had no money in the budget for air quality and the homeless in CA?

    Give me a break. They are repeating items that are already budgeted to have a big slush fund.
    Let's go Brandon !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by carolina73 View Post
    Those are very generous numbers. NASA had some good returns but it did take many years to get a return.
    So much welfare money goes into black markets and alcohol that it does little.

    In reality with a 22% average fed income tax rate. The best R.O.I. that any spending could ever generate would be 22% so then they are guessing at compounding expenditures. State expenditures would be about the same between income, sales, excise and property taxes.
    The ROI from Apollo was from the technology that was created which had civilian application.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    There may be exceptions but they only serve to prove the rule. How was that 26:1 calculated? Spin off inventions?
    Yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omar View Post
    My guess about most Californians is that they would get down on their knees and beg the state to take more of their money. With the exception of RMNixon, of course, who I believe lives in California.
    But I live in South Carolina and I have to pay CA income taxes based on the percentage of my sales into California.
    All I ever had to do was step foot in the state of CA once to see the customers to qualify for this rip off.
    Let's go Brandon !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by carolina73 View Post
    But I live in South Carolina and I have to pay CA income taxes based on the percentage of my sales into California.
    All I ever had to do was step foot in the state of CA once to see the customers to qualify for this rip off.
    Well, that does sound like a ripoff. Makes you wonder how their businesses survive, you'd think people would cut them off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omar View Post
    Well, that does sound like a ripoff. Makes you wonder how their businesses survive, you'd think people would cut them off.
    It does make us raise our margins to these companies as compensation.
    Let's go Brandon !!!

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