User Tag List

+ Reply to Thread
Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12
Results 11 to 20 of 20

Thread: California's women on boards law is unconstitutional

  1. #11
    Points: 145,105, Level: 91
    Level completed: 58%, Points required for next Level: 1,545
    Overall activity: 68.0%
    Achievements:
    Social50000 Experience PointsOverdriveVeteran
    Awards:
    Activity Award
    carolina73's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    44148
    Join Date
    Sep 2019
    Posts
    58,051
    Points
    145,105
    Level
    91
    Thanks Given
    56,526
    Thanked 44,153x in 28,538 Posts
    Mentioned
    155 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    At least there is resistance to insanity.
    Let's go Brandon !!!

  2. #12
    Points: 115,512, Level: 82
    Level completed: 63%, Points required for next Level: 1,138
    Overall activity: 53.0%
    Achievements:
    Social50000 Experience PointsVeteran
    RMNIXON's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    30968
    Join Date
    Sep 2020
    Posts
    31,148
    Points
    115,512
    Level
    82
    Thanks Given
    32,210
    Thanked 30,962x in 18,196 Posts
    Mentioned
    84 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by OLD GUY IN FLORIDA View Post
    Soon corporate boards will have several hundred people serving. This will be required to cover all of the identity classes we now face. Lets see, women, blacks, Hispanics, Pacific Islanders, gays, transgenders, little people, Wiccans, homeless. Did I leave out any important groups?
    And the never ending Symbolism over substance (or even competence) will be the ruin of these companies.

    The recent story about Netflix telling employees to dial back the WOKE crap might save them? We shall see.......................
    My Revenge will be Success! - Donald J Trump

  3. #13
    Points: 75,588, Level: 67
    Level completed: 6%, Points required for next Level: 2,162
    Overall activity: 46.0%
    Achievements:
    50000 Experience PointsSocialVeteran
    Standing Wolf's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    315151
    Join Date
    Oct 2015
    Posts
    25,884
    Points
    75,588
    Level
    67
    Thanks Given
    5,783
    Thanked 21,268x in 12,391 Posts
    Mentioned
    417 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Time after time state legislatures waste everyone's time and the taxpayers' money creating and passing bills into law that have zero chance to face a court challenge. Is it pandering? Of course it is, and lawmakers from both sides of the aisle engage in it constantly. And when those laws are struck down and nullified by the courts, the ones being pandered to, regardless of Party affiliation, will cry about "unelected judges legislating from the bench". This time it was certain special interests on the Left that were being pandered to, but it won't always be.
    Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing.” - Robert E. Howard

    "Only a rank degenerate would drive 1,500 miles across Texas and not eat a chicken fried steak." - Larry McMurtry

  4. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Standing Wolf For This Useful Post:

    DGUtley (05-17-2022),OLD GUY IN FLORIDA (05-17-2022)

  5. #14
    Points: 668,174, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 99.8%
    Achievements:
    SocialRecommendation Second ClassYour first GroupOverdrive50000 Experience PointsTagger First ClassVeteran
    Awards:
    Discussion Ender
    Chris's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    433945
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Posts
    198,179
    Points
    668,174
    Level
    100
    Thanks Given
    32,228
    Thanked 81,534x in 55,050 Posts
    Mentioned
    2014 Post(s)
    Tagged
    2 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    Time after time state legislatures waste everyone's time and the taxpayers' money creating and passing bills into law that have zero chance to face a court challenge. Is it pandering? Of course it is, and lawmakers from both sides of the aisle engage in it constantly. And when those laws are struck down and nullified by the courts, the ones being pandered to, regardless of Party affiliation, will cry about "unelected judges legislating from the bench". This time it was certain special interests on the Left that were being pandered to, but it won't always be.
    Well, far as I'm concerned, finding a law unconstitutional returns it to the legislature. Legislating from the bench requires the court to actually write law, as in Roe. I don't see finding, for example, DOMA unconstitutional as judicial activism.
    Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. ― Gustav Mahler

  6. #15
    Points: 75,588, Level: 67
    Level completed: 6%, Points required for next Level: 2,162
    Overall activity: 46.0%
    Achievements:
    50000 Experience PointsSocialVeteran
    Standing Wolf's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    315151
    Join Date
    Oct 2015
    Posts
    25,884
    Points
    75,588
    Level
    67
    Thanks Given
    5,783
    Thanked 21,268x in 12,391 Posts
    Mentioned
    417 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Well, far as I'm concerned, finding a law unconstitutional returns it to the legislature. Legislating from the bench requires the court to actually write law, as in Roe. I don't see finding, for example, DOMA unconstitutional as judicial activism.
    Statute law - laws created and codified by legislatures - comprises only a small fraction of the body of laws in the U.S. Go into a large law library and compare the few shelves of books that contain the case law for your state, along with federal statutes, with the hundreds of volumes of case law - the collected decisions of virtually every appellate case ever decided. The concept of only statute law being binding law has never existed in this country. And what is sometimes mischaracterized - by the press, and especially by parties whose interests or views are negatively affected by a decision - as being a court "writing a law" is nothing of the kind. Striking down an un-Constitutional law is in no sense "writing a law".
    Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing.” - Robert E. Howard

    "Only a rank degenerate would drive 1,500 miles across Texas and not eat a chicken fried steak." - Larry McMurtry

  7. #16
    Points: 668,174, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 99.8%
    Achievements:
    SocialRecommendation Second ClassYour first GroupOverdrive50000 Experience PointsTagger First ClassVeteran
    Awards:
    Discussion Ender
    Chris's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    433945
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Posts
    198,179
    Points
    668,174
    Level
    100
    Thanks Given
    32,228
    Thanked 81,534x in 55,050 Posts
    Mentioned
    2014 Post(s)
    Tagged
    2 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    Statute law - laws created and codified by legislatures - comprises only a small fraction of the body of laws in the U.S. Go into a large law library and compare the few shelves of books that contain the case law for your state, along with federal statutes, with the hundreds of volumes of case law - the collected decisions of virtually every appellate case ever decided. The concept of only statute law being binding law has never existed in this country. And what is sometimes mischaracterized - by the press, and especially by parties whose interests or views are negatively affected by a decision - as being a court "writing a law" is nothing of the kind. Striking down an un-Constitutional law is in no sense "writing a law".

    Right, great definitions.
    Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. ― Gustav Mahler

  8. #17
    Original Ranter
    Points: 863,827, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 99.9%
    Achievements:
    SocialCreated Album picturesOverdrive50000 Experience PointsVeteran
    Awards:
    Posting Award
    Peter1469's Avatar Advisor
    Karma
    497545
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    NOVA
    Posts
    242,878
    Points
    863,827
    Level
    100
    Thanks Given
    153,702
    Thanked 148,555x in 94,977 Posts
    Mentioned
    2554 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    The problem is that these politicians push this laws and pass these laws knowing they will get shot down by the courts. But the plan is to blame the courts for hurting whoever benefited from the law. It is an act that helps destroys institutions.
    ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ


  9. The Following User Says Thank You to Peter1469 For This Useful Post:

    Chris (05-17-2022)

  10. #18
    Original Ranter
    Points: 863,827, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 99.9%
    Achievements:
    SocialCreated Album picturesOverdrive50000 Experience PointsVeteran
    Awards:
    Posting Award
    Peter1469's Avatar Advisor
    Karma
    497545
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    NOVA
    Posts
    242,878
    Points
    863,827
    Level
    100
    Thanks Given
    153,702
    Thanked 148,555x in 94,977 Posts
    Mentioned
    2554 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    Statute law - laws created and codified by legislatures - comprises only a small fraction of the body of laws in the U.S. Go into a large law library and compare the few shelves of books that contain the case law for your state, along with federal statutes, with the hundreds of volumes of case law - the collected decisions of virtually every appellate case ever decided. The concept of only statute law being binding law has never existed in this country. And what is sometimes mischaracterized - by the press, and especially by parties whose interests or views are negatively affected by a decision - as being a court "writing a law" is nothing of the kind. Striking down an un-Constitutional law is in no sense "writing a law".
    Case law is not intended to create or rewrite legislation. Case law is judicial interpretation of laws, regulations, and legal precedence.

    If a court finds a law unconstitutional on its face, it should strike down the law. If the legislature wants to try to rewrite it to meet court muster, that is up to the legislature.
    ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ


  11. The Following User Says Thank You to Peter1469 For This Useful Post:

    Chris (05-17-2022)

  12. #19
    Points: 668,174, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 99.8%
    Achievements:
    SocialRecommendation Second ClassYour first GroupOverdrive50000 Experience PointsTagger First ClassVeteran
    Awards:
    Discussion Ender
    Chris's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    433945
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Posts
    198,179
    Points
    668,174
    Level
    100
    Thanks Given
    32,228
    Thanked 81,534x in 55,050 Posts
    Mentioned
    2014 Post(s)
    Tagged
    2 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    The problem is that these politicians push this laws and pass these laws knowing they will get shot down by the courts. But the plan is to blame the courts for hurting whoever benefited from the law. It is an act that helps destroys institutions.
    SO bot virtue signaling and undermining courts as an institution.
    Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. ― Gustav Mahler

  13. #20
    Points: 75,588, Level: 67
    Level completed: 6%, Points required for next Level: 2,162
    Overall activity: 46.0%
    Achievements:
    50000 Experience PointsSocialVeteran
    Standing Wolf's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    315151
    Join Date
    Oct 2015
    Posts
    25,884
    Points
    75,588
    Level
    67
    Thanks Given
    5,783
    Thanked 21,268x in 12,391 Posts
    Mentioned
    417 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Case law is not intended to create or rewrite legislation. Case law is judicial interpretation of laws, regulations, and legal precedence.

    If a court finds a law unconstitutional on its face, it should strike down the law. If the legislature wants to try to rewrite it to meet court muster, that is up to the legislature.
    You've described the system as it currently operates, and always has. The problem is that many people do not understand how it works and believe that the court "makes laws" in the sense that legislatures do.
    Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing.” - Robert E. Howard

    "Only a rank degenerate would drive 1,500 miles across Texas and not eat a chicken fried steak." - Larry McMurtry

  14. The Following User Says Thank You to Standing Wolf For This Useful Post:

    Peter1469 (05-17-2022)

+ Reply to Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts