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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    I was serious. You folks would support what I said. Would I be ok with the United States sending in troops to suppress an armed rebellion against the government of the United States? I called for the United States to violently suppress the secessionist rebellions against the government that took place in Portland and Seattle in 2020. So, yes. We know that you would not.
    Texas secession would not be an armed rebellion. It would not be violent unless the US made it so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FindersKeepers View Post
    What you said was not an accurate analogy for many reasons. But, you're not looking for a discussion--not really--you're looking to draw parallels where they don't exist because you don't understand why a large group of people do not support all-out war against Russia. I've pretty much given up trying to explain why military support of a corrupt Ukraine is not in the US's (or world's) best interest. I really do wish this thread could have stayed on track, but it's probably too late. Sigh.
    I'm sorry that you think that I took it off track, but my point is on track. Those countries would be violating the sovereign territory of the US (as is Russia) in helping the independence seeking Texans and would be risking all-out war with the United States. I see a direct analogy - maybe once removed, but an analogy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Texas secession would not be an armed rebellion. It would not be violent unless the US made it so.

    That's what the title said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    I'm sorry that you think that I took it off track, but my point is on track. Those countries would be violating the sovereign territory of the US (as is Russia) in helping the independence seeking Texans and would be risking all-out war with the United States. I see a direct analogy - maybe once removed, but an analogy.
    I know we disagree on this topic, but we agree on many other issues, so, while I'm disappointed, that will have to be enough for me.

    Yes, I understand that Texas would be risking all-out war. I'm just wondering whether Americans have the stomach for that type of war in this day and age.

    That's what we're going to have to decide at some point. No empire lasts forever, and breakups can be messy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Texas secession would not be an armed rebellion. It would not be violent unless the US made it so.
    Do you think the Biden Administration would make it so?

    It would be political suicide.
    ""A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul" ~George Bernard Shaw

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    Quote Originally Posted by FindersKeepers View Post
    Do you think the Biden Administration would make it so?

    It would be political suicide.
    Can he afford to fight wars on two fronts? No, but he likely would.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Texas reserved succession as a right in its State Constitution. Their immediate concern would be to secure their southern border and prevent foreign influence.
    If the major impetus for secession is the border crisis, there is plenty the state of Texas could no now without resorting to that. I believe that the majority of the land on the Texas side of the border is either privately or state owned, so stationing state Guard forces there, along with deputizing landowners as government agents, and dealing with unlawful border crossers as the state sees fit would be a preferable alternative. The activities of U.S. Customs and Border Control (Border Patrol) agents would be confined to federal property, and federal agents attempting to operate outside their jurisdiction or interfere with state police or military personnel would face arrest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    If the major impetus for secession is the border crisis, there is plenty the state of Texas could no now without resorting to that. I believe that the majority of the land on the Texas side of the border is either privately or state owned, so stationing state Guard forces there, along with deputizing landowners as government agents, and dealing with unlawful border crossers as the state sees fit would be a preferable alternative. The activities of U.S. Customs and Border Control (Border Patrol) agents would be confined to federal property, and federal agents attempting to operate outside their jurisdiction or interfere with state police or military personnel would face arrest.
    I am not sure if that is the main issue in their succession considerations. It is certainly an issue.
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    War isn't the answer.

    Stopping leftists and their stupidity is.

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    The USA has a different problem. If Texas was to secede then an avalanche of others would follow. What the USA would look like is a northeast corridor and a strip on the west coast with two pimples in the NW.

    If they want food and water then we will sell it to them. But it will not be cheap.
    Let's go Brandon !!!

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