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Thread: Texas Secession "Would Mean War"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Again I see this plank in the Texas Republican platform as a rallying cry, a Mel Brook's harumph. And I think it's backfired already seeing how it's divided conservatives.
    It's exposed the milquetoast "conservatives" who keep doing the same thing and expecting different results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    You've yet to prove that it's not practical.

    You haven't proven that it would be.

    Simple logic and analysis shows the impracticality of the idea. Texas is far more Liberal than you seem to understand. That is just one of many points you have completely ignored.

    It would also really not be difficult to institute a blockade against Texas that would strangle it economically. You actually mentioned Cuba in another post and asked if economic sanctions against it have caused it to fall. The answer to that is "No, it hasn't fallen, but the standard of living certainly has". Do you think Texas would want to become another Cuba?

    This is what I am talking about when I say you go off on some emotional tirade without thinking things through. You do it all the time on almost every subject you discuss. It is why you get laughed at so often.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    The declaration is based on laws that transcend man-made laws and constitutions, you idiot.
    You idiot? That’s funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    It's exposed the milquetoast "conservatives" who keep doing the same thing and expecting different results.
    Which group is that though?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    I was serious. You folks would support what I said. Would I be ok with the United States sending in troops to suppress an armed rebellion against the government of the United States? I called for the United States to violently suppress the secessionist rebellions against the government that took place in Portland and Seattle in 2020. So, yes. We know that you would not.
    England versus its colonies then living under less tyranny than we live under today:

    England sent troops to suppress an armed rebellion just as you would want the Americans to send troops to suppress an independent Texas today. So what is the difference between one people declaring independence from a tyrannical government then versus now?
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cletus View Post
    Really, really stupid statement.
    He’s getting progressively worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Again I see this plank in the Texas Republican platform as a rallying cry, a Mel Brook's harumph. And I think it's backfired already seeing how it's divided conservatives.
    Inertia. It is always easiest to sit things out.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    You have no experience in actual warfare, so you should probably just STFU.
    If I met you in person, it would be a lot of fun. For me anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    I was being sarcastic about Russia and Cuba but you're apparently not intelligent enough to get that.
    You said you supported using military force against Texas if it seceded. You also falsely characterized secession as an "armed rebellion" in an attempt to provide your position with some semblance of credibility. If there is a real difference between your feelings now and the feelings of the British in 1776, I cannot see it.

    That was a different you. That you is dead - buried. Today's you has made it very clear that you wouldn't lift a finger to help anyone but yourself. You have been very clear on that.
    Now you're just lying.

    I don't 'run my mouth' on the internet. If anybody does that, it's you. You are running your mouth calling people stupid, idiots, anti-American etc. That's running your mouth. You've never seen me do that. Maybe, again, you're not intelligent enough to know that.
    So are you going to tell me what you've done personally to contribute to the "fight for freedom"? Because from where I'm standing, it looks like you haven't done a god damn thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cletus View Post
    You haven't proven that it would be.

    Simple logic and analysis shows the impracticality of the idea. Texas is far more Liberal than you seem to understand. That is just one of many points you have completely ignored.

    It would also really not be difficult to institute a blockade against Texas that would strangle it economically. You actually mentioned Cuba in another post and asked if economic sanctions against it have caused it to fall. The answer to that is "No, it hasn't fallen, but the standard of living certainly has". Do you think Texas would want to become another Cuba?

    This is what I am talking about when I say you go off on some emotional tirade without thinking things through. You do it all the time on almost every subject you discuss. It is why you get laughed at so often.
    How would you institute a blockade of Texas? Since it is not difficult.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


    I pledge allegiance to the Constitution as written and understood by this nation's founders, and to the Republic it created, an indivisible union of sovereign States, with liberty and justice for all.

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