Remember all, in Richard head land be sure to set your thermostat at night to a nice comfy 85* in the summer time, to help people with charging their ev cars!
Remember all, in Richard head land be sure to set your thermostat at night to a nice comfy 85* in the summer time, to help people with charging their ev cars!
The electricity used to operate cars is generated by fossil fuel.
Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. ― Gustav Mahler
carolina73 (06-23-2022),MisterVeritis (06-23-2022)
What am I making up?
https://www.llnl.gov/news/power-generation-blowing-windIn the new research, Wharton and Lundquist gathered a year of power data from upwind modern turbines (80 meters high) at a multi-megawatt wind farm on the West Coast. They considered turbine power information as well as meteorological data from an 80-meter tall tower and a Sonic Detection and Ranging (SODAR), which provided wind profiles up to 200 meters above the surface, to look at turbulence and wind shear. Looking at upwind turbines removed any influence that turbine wakes may have on power performance.
The team found that wind speed and power production varied by season as well as from night to day. Wind speeds were higher at night (more power) than during the day (less power) and higher during the warm season (more power) than in the cool season (less power). For example, average power production was 43 percent of maximum generation capacity on summer days and peaked at 67 percent on summer nights.
https://pv-magazine-usa.com/2022/05/...-observations/The Department of Energy’s Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (LBNL) has released a top ten list of observations on co-located wind or solar plus energy storage (hybrid), with each of the unique ideas referencing a research paper developed by the group.
LBNL is covering this topic primarily due to the recent increases in deployment, and interest in these hybrid facilities. Assuming that future project queues can be used to predict the number of actual hybrid power projects that will get built, then let it be known that hybrid systems already make up 42% of the United State’s future potential 675 GW of solar generation capacity. California’s solar queue, for all intents and purposes, is a solar-plus-storage queue, with its 95% coupling rate.
Last edited by RichardMZhlubb; 06-23-2022 at 10:17 AM.
Yes, it makes absolutely perfect sense that solar panels produce the most electricity when the sun isn't shinning and windmills are most efficient when the wind speeds are at their lowest.
How many windmills or solar panels will be needed to service 270 million automobiles? How long will it take to build enough charging stations to take care of 270 million automobiles. It took from 1886 to 1908 for the automobile to be seen as the preferred method of transportation and its growth was not by government edict. Humans are, as a group, somewhat conservative in their habits and do not rush change just for the sake of change. There has to be some benefit before the consumer embraces that change. That benefit is not wide spread with electric cars and if the government outlaws the use of gasoline, either by outright ban or by taxation and market mechanizations, the disruption of the economy will be enormous.
If electric cars are a boon to mankind they will prevail. If not and fools like the joe biden administration, force that change then I can guarantee the results will not be pretty
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FindersKeepers (06-23-2022)
Last estimate that I saw was we only need 1.26 million wind mills to power the USA.
So let's not have any subsidies to any power companies and see who produces the best source judged by what people want to buy.
We will never be all electric.
We have to produce oil or you will not be able to but most of the products that you use today. You will not even be able to buy an electric care unless they start replacing plastic with wood. Your computer will not have a circuit board. Those are resin. All you weather resistant and high strength plastics, resins and epoxies come from long chain polymers that you are not going to be able to produce with soybean and sugar cane.
That means the 65% of a barrel of oil, now used for gas has to find new uses or go down the drain.
I am all for renewables that are not subsidized. Government subsidies only make things more expensive.
I will have one electric car/truck when I have to replace one of my current ones but I'm not going to put out 80 grand to save 2 grand a year like these idiots in the White House think I should do.
My other car will be gas for longer trips.
Solar is a financial scam. Currently it also is old on subsidies that tell people that they can get others to pay for their electricity. Wait until they start getting the bill for replacing the electronics and batteries. Wait until they have to replace the roof and have to pay to have the panels removed and reinstalled.
This pressure campaign from the left is over in 2024.
Let's go Brandon !!!
FindersKeepers (06-23-2022),OLD GUY IN FLORIDA (06-23-2022)
You cited a limited study of wind on the West Coast, where (only during specific seasons) the wind coming in off the Pacific may pick up at night.
That's not the case for the majority of the country.
https://wxguys.ssec.wisc.edu/2013/11...-after-sunset/Why does the wind diminish after sunset?
Posted on November 18, 2013 by Weather Guys Editor
A reader wrote us last week with two questions prompted by careful observation: 1. Why does the wind speed tend to decrease after sunset? 2. Why does this effect seem less pronounced in late autumn and winter?
As it turns out, the answers are somewhat related to one another.
The wind speed tends to decrease after sunset because at night the surface of the Earth cools much more rapidly than does the air above the surface.
As a result of this difference in cooling ability, it doesn’t take long for the ground to become colder than the air above it.
The air in close contact with the ground — say in the lowest 300 feet of the atmosphere — then becomes colder than the air above it.
This circumstance leads to the development of what is known as a temperature inversion. Inversions dramatically reduce the amount of mixing that occurs between different vertical layers of the atmosphere. As a consequence, once the inversion sets up (after sunset), it is much harder for fast-moving air above the ground to mix down to the surface, where it could appear as a gust of wind.
During the day it is very easy for the air to mix and cause surface gusts.
""A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul" ~George Bernard Shaw
Citing an article about surface winds generally is meaningless. Wind power facilities are built in particular locations to take advantage of wind patterns well above the surface, and in practice just about everywhere, wind power production peaks at night. Here’s wind power production data for today in ERCOT (Texas):
COP HSL for Current Day Forecasted and Actual Wind Power Production.png
""A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul" ~George Bernard Shaw
OLD GUY IN FLORIDA (06-23-2022),Peter1469 (06-24-2022)