Why the hell should I have to pay for your sorry arse

[stjames1_53]

It shouldn't be. There is a tendency I've noticed - 'why do we need a new one... that school was good enough for me' '...for my kids..' etc. (I'm not referencing St. James - I've been on levy committees.)

Actually, my real reference was financing the show.
My property taxes keep going up, but the students are failing at a faster rate. Administration gets a healthy raise, but the teachers are still supplying goods for the classrooms.
In Seymour, all teachers and substitutes are targets for students. The slightest hint of anything they disapprove gets a call in into the office.
Personal experience tells me things are such.
If a student accuses any teacher or sub of anything, they may was well bring an attorney to the "hearing." I've been through two, When I was cleared again, I $#@!ing quit. A female student accused me of saying something inappropriate to her. The investigation revealed that she thought I made a comment about her clothing. She raised it to such a level by claiming it was "inappropriate" that it had admin's attention for four days. All of that time, I thought I should have had a lawyer present.
As it turned out, they determined that I had not said a word about anyone's clothing, anywhere, anytime.
$#@! working for them. I was grilled like I was in an old Chicago police interrogation room. No credit was given to me after it was all done. Just a return to your job. I did not. I walked off.
I don't have kids in the system, I should not support the public schools for two good reasons.

[carolina73]

I've been discounted since I have no kids in school, much less in this school system.
I spoke from a substitute's position. They wanted an increase in taxes and I reminded them that I could do simple math by the time I hit first grade. (It's not that I'm smart. My mom ground math into our heads as kids)
I told them half of the kids graduating cannot read and can only do math on their phones.
"What exactly is it I'm paying for?
I do see constant remodeling on the buildings, but I did not see any improvement in test scores.
I see high dollar administration, but I see failure for the children.
You claim to need more money.
Again, what am I paying for?"

You answered your own question. New buildings running the 50 to 125 million range that of course have to be "green".
Administration for the districts are half the cost of education.
Look at the salaries.
Your paying the consultants for the woke programs.
Your paying the legal costs and the lawyers because the schools are not focused on actual education.
Your paying to bus every student when that used to be reserved only for kids that live more than 2 miles from the school.

[Tahuyaman]

jipping school, dealing drugs.. shooting up my kids... FU

I'm not sure what you are getting at, but local public schools should be funded by the taxpayers who fund local government, not the federal government.

[Tahuyaman]

It shouldn't be. There is a tendency I've noticed - 'why do we need a new one... that school was good enough for me' '...for my kids..' etc. (I'm not referencing St. James - I've been on levy committees.)

Those schools don't have all the wiz-bang green requirements which cost tens of millions of dollars per school.

[donttread]

I'm not sure what you are getting at, but local public schools should be funded by the taxpayers who fund local government, not the federal government.

I think Bush took care of that with his "Every Child Left Behind" . Then there is state money and mandates

[Tahuyaman]

I think Bush took care of that with his "Every Child Left Behind" . Then there is state money and mandates

Bush made a lot of mistakes. He campaigned as a conservative, but there was little evidence of that based on his policy ideas.

[donttread]

I guess after you finish school and your kids are done its fckk the civic and societal obligations, "I got mine yall can go to hell, Murica"

Who said that? The OP appeared to be talking about paying the taxes without a voice.
I know the people you are talking about who always want to vote the budget down. Others want it passed because their kids are in school or family works there or sit on the board.. I always evaluate it and try to see what's in it for the kids. More would be in it for the kids if we weren't paying for full health coverage and retirement for those 55 year old retirees for example. That whole retire near full pay with gold standard healthcare thing is almost exclusively for government workers, not private sector. But then they have to deal with all those brats in the school system, and then there's the kids.
As someone already mentioned schools are top heavy which was why I voted no the one time I did. But too often it doesn't seem to do the students much good.
I know schools are measured by standards, comparisons and statistics from student scores to dollars spent per student but what happens to the school when it shows poorly?

[ripmeister]

This gets my goat. I pay property taxes for the school system, and I don't have any relatives in this school system.
Why the hell should I pay those taxes when I'm not allowed to voice my opinion at these meetings.
Here's what they said.
"Your dollars go towards better education for kids."
They cannot read past a 4th grade level. They cannot do the simplest math without a calculator, and they learn no real social skills at school.
80% of all graduating girls will end up marrying a drunken abuser and go through multiple marriages and make more babies just like them.
10% will go on to college and become porn stars. The other 10% will skip college and to right into the porn industry.
These 20% will also become social justice warriors while working on their backs demanding better pay, shorter hours, and a politician in their pocket. (Hollywood)

Who paid for your education?

[stjames1_53]

You answered your own question. New buildings running the 50 to 125 million range that of course have to be "green".
Administration for the districts are half the cost of education.
Look at the salaries.
Your paying the consultants for the woke programs.
Your paying the legal costs and the lawyers because the schools are not focused on actual education.
Your paying to bus every student when that used to be reserved only for kids that live more than 2 miles from the school.

And still yet, I don't have any kids in any school system in the US............
sigh...............forced to pay for failures over and over again

[stjames1_53]

Who paid for your education?

well, it sure as $#@! wasn't you............
I graduated in '70. 98% of my class graduated with 100 times more knowledge than even you have...................
I'm 69.............I've repaid that debt over many times.
So, tell me, Ripper............why should I pay now for failed systems.
Because you feel I should?
You're a joke..................I laugh at under-educated folks like you.
Kids can't do math and can hardly read.
Tell you what. I'll take a pill from Civil Disobedience and YOU can pay my share.
"If you want that road to go past my house, and I do not, I will not pay for the street in front of my house. If you want it there, pay for it yourself."