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    Quote Originally Posted by IMPress Polly View Post
    Seriously man, I read Rich Dad, Poor Dad too (I was forced to) and one of the things I learned from it is that the maximization of leisure time is already the goal of the capitalist class. Why is it wrong for the working class to share this ambition?
    Isn't it maximize leisure with money flow (in and out / balance)? I had gone a year here and there with no real leisure time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Isn't it maximize leisure with money flow (in and out / balance)? I had gone a year here and there with no real leisure time.
    From the perspective of the author in question, the primary objective of wealth accumulation was to create a kind of money-generating machine that could sustain itself without intervention, leaving the machine's creator free spend all of his time with friends and family and just enjoying leisure pursuits and activities. It suits this goal that his personal methodology of getting from here to there revolved around buying properties at one price, doing nothing to them, then selling them to someone else at a higher price, rinse and repeat, thus contributing exactly nothing to society. You won't be surprised to learn that this same individual today is, similarly, a big promoter of cryptocurrency; another kind of "trade" that contributes nothing to society. Making fortunes by conning people, barking orders, and manipulating money and calling it work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Isn't it maximize leisure with money flow (in and out / balance)? I had gone a year here and there with no real leisure time.
    Why do libs think they shouldn't have to work for anything? Why should I have to work hard to support lazy $#@!s?
    Cutesy Time is OVER

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    Quote Originally Posted by IMPress Polly View Post
    From the perspective of the author in question, the primary objective of wealth accumulation was to create a kind of money-generating machine that could sustain itself without intervention, leaving the machine's creator free spend all of his time with friends and family and just enjoying leisure pursuits and activities. It suits this goal that his personal methodology of getting from here to there revolved around buying properties at one price, doing nothing to them, then selling them to someone else at a higher price, rinse and repeat, thus contributing exactly nothing to society. You won't be surprised to learn that this same individual today is, similarly, a big promoter of cryptocurrency; another kind of "trade" that contributes nothing to society. Making fortunes by conning people, barking orders, and manipulating money and calling it work. Such people, you won't be surprised to learn, create jobs that provide no benefit to society.
    You people are so gullible. You realize office work still counts as work, right? What, people shouldn't be compensated for their time? Laying around on a beach and collecting a UBI check contributes to society?
    Cutesy Time is OVER

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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Why do libs think they shouldn't have to work for anything? Why should I have to work hard to support lazy $#@!s?
    I don't think people should have to work for basic necessities of life, like food, water, shelter, medicine, etc. Those things I consider rights that one is owed for being human and which, yes, our society CAN afford to supply. If your system cannot function with such guarantees included then maybe your system of doing things has a fundamental problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IMPress Polly View Post
    Seriously man, I read Rich Dad, Poor Dad too (I was forced to) and one of the things I learned from it is that the maximization of leisure time is already the goal of the capitalist class. Why is it wrong for the working class to share this ambition?
    Classes? Don't you know that old version of Marxism died out decades ago. It's all identity groups now. Get with the program!
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    I have actually looked at this Reddit thread and it is primarily a gripe thread. There are some terrible managers out there but no one has any problem getting a new job.

    Sometimes you get rid of people for different reasons than stated. You have to, but losing employees is not something a employer wants to do for no reason.

    I would suggest that they wanted the waitress with the loose corset to quit. I will never say never, but I can bet the corset had little to do with her being fired.
    Let's go Brandon !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by IMPress Polly View Post
    I don't think people should have to work for basic necessities of life, like food, water, shelter, medicine, etc. Those things I consider rights that one is owed for being human and which, yes, our society CAN afford to supply. If your system cannot function with such guarantees included then maybe your system of doing things has a fundamental problem.
    You have a right to pursue those things. Demanding them of others is theft.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IMPress Polly View Post
    From the perspective of the author in question, the primary objective of wealth accumulation was to create a kind of money-generating machine that could sustain itself without intervention, leaving the machine's creator free spend all of his time with friends and family and just enjoying leisure pursuits and activities. It suits this goal that his personal methodology of getting from here to there revolved around buying properties at one price, doing nothing to them, then selling them to someone else at a higher price, rinse and repeat, thus contributing exactly nothing to society. You won't be surprised to learn that this same individual today is, similarly, a big promoter of cryptocurrency; another kind of "trade" that contributes nothing to society. Making fortunes by conning people, barking orders, and manipulating money and calling it work.
    Many people made a lot of money with cryptos. Many lost a lot. I don't try.

    I invested in myself got an education that lead to well paying jobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Many people made a lot of money with cryptos. Many lost a lot. I don't try.

    I invested in myself got an education that lead to well paying jobs.
    I did something similar, pursuing fulfilling careers in gainful employment by way of obtaining higher education. I wound up as a teacher for a while, but currently am...not. Working on it. Working on finding something different. Part of my goal in doing so though is the hope of being able to work a little more on my own terms and perhaps find more leisure time. As well as just to experience less stress and feel like my work actually means something. I have these goals and don't think they're unreasonable ones to have. I do an awful lot of menial, mind-numbing, unfulfilling work right now that's not very appreciated and which I don't care to be doing.
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