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    The lost nuclear bombs that no one can find

    Hey, mistakes happen!

    The lost nuclear bombs that no one can find

    The US has lost at least three nuclear bombs that have never been located they're still out there to this day. How did this happen? Where could they be? And will we ever find them?

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    In fact, the Palomares incident is not the only time a nuclear weapon has been misplaced. There have been at least 32 so-called "broken arrow" accidents those involving these catastrophically destructive, earth-flattening devices since 1950. In many cases, the weapons were dropped by mistake or jettisoned during an emergency, then later recovered. But three US bombs have gone missing altogether they're still out there to this day, lurking in swamps, fields and oceans across the planet.


    "We mostly know about the American cases," says Jeffrey Lewis, director of the East Asia Non-proliferation Program at the James Martin Center for Non-proliferation Studies, California. He explains that the full list only emerged when a summary prepared by the US Department of Defense was declassified in the 1980s.


    Many occurred during the Cold War, when the nation teetered on the precipice of Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD) with the Soviet Union and consequently kept airplanes armed with nuclear weapons in the sky at all times from 1960 to 1968, in an operation known as Chrome Dome.


    "We don't know as much about other countries. We don't really know anything about the United Kingdom or France, or Russia or China," says Lewis. "So I don't think we have anything like a full accounting."


    The Soviet Union's nuclear past is particularly murky it had amassed a stockpile of 45,000 nuclear weapons as of 1986. There are known cases where the country lost nuclear bombs that have never been retrieved, but unlike with the US incidents, they all occurred on submarines and their locations are known, if inaccessible.









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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Hey, mistakes happen!

    The lost nuclear bombs that no one can find

    The US has lost at least three nuclear bombs that have never been located – they're still out there to this day. How did this happen? Where could they be? And will we ever find them?

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    An unknown number


    In fact, the Palomares incident is not the only time a nuclear weapon has been misplaced. There have been at least 32 so-called "broken arrow" accidents – those involving these catastrophically destructive, earth-flattening devices – since 1950. In many cases, the weapons were dropped by mistake or jettisoned during an emergency, then later recovered. But three US bombs have gone missing altogether – they're still out there to this day, lurking in swamps, fields and oceans across the planet.


    "We mostly know about the American cases," says Jeffrey Lewis, director of the East Asia Non-proliferation Program at the James Martin Center for Non-proliferation Studies, California. He explains that the full list only emerged when a summary prepared by the US Department of Defense was declassified in the 1980s.


    Many occurred during the Cold War, when the nation teetered on the precipice of Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD) with the Soviet Union – and consequently kept airplanes armed with nuclear weapons in the sky at all times from 1960 to 1968, in an operation known as Chrome Dome.


    "We don't know as much about other countries. We don't really know anything about the United Kingdom or France, or Russia or China," says Lewis. "So I don't think we have anything like a full accounting."


    The Soviet Union's nuclear past is particularly murky – it had amassed a stockpile of 45,000 nuclear weapons as of 1986. There are known cases where the country lost nuclear bombs that have never been retrieved, but unlike with the US incidents, they all occurred on submarines and their locations are known, if inaccessible.









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    Well, at least their triggers weren't armed, so not knowing where they landed might be considered a blessing at least. I grew up and still live around a former SAC base, so it's a given nukes were flying over us a lot. And, the ammo bunkers under the runways are visible from my house. I always slept pretty good; you get used to the B-52's taking off and landing 24/7.
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    I suppose calling 811 (call before you dig) won't help you in these cases?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Hey, mistakes happen!

    The lost nuclear bombs that no one can find

    The US has lost at least three nuclear bombs that have never been located – they're still out there to this day. How did this happen? Where could they be? And will we ever find them?

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    An unknown number


    In fact, the Palomares incident is not the only time a nuclear weapon has been misplaced. There have been at least 32 so-called "broken arrow" accidents – those involving these catastrophically destructive, earth-flattening devices – since 1950. In many cases, the weapons were dropped by mistake or jettisoned during an emergency, then later recovered. But three US bombs have gone missing altogether – they're still out there to this day, lurking in swamps, fields and oceans across the planet.


    "We mostly know about the American cases," says Jeffrey Lewis, director of the East Asia Non-proliferation Program at the James Martin Center for Non-proliferation Studies, California. He explains that the full list only emerged when a summary prepared by the US Department of Defense was declassified in the 1980s.


    Many occurred during the Cold War, when the nation teetered on the precipice of Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD) with the Soviet Union – and consequently kept airplanes armed with nuclear weapons in the sky at all times from 1960 to 1968, in an operation known as Chrome Dome.


    "We don't know as much about other countries. We don't really know anything about the United Kingdom or France, or Russia or China," says Lewis. "So I don't think we have anything like a full accounting."


    The Soviet Union's nuclear past is particularly murky – it had amassed a stockpile of 45,000 nuclear weapons as of 1986. There are known cases where the country lost nuclear bombs that have never been retrieved, but unlike with the US incidents, they all occurred on submarines and their locations are known, if inaccessible.

    I used to have a wonderful book, secret, no foreign dissemination, that provided the details of every American incident resulting in a damaged or lost weapon. I cannot recall if it covered other nations.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    The good news is that nuclear weapons that are not maintained will no longer function after a long time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RMNIXON View Post
    The good news is that nuclear weapons that are not maintained will no longer function after a long time.
    We are likely more worried about radiation leaks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    We are likely more worried about radiation leaks.
    Although risks are small for weapons lost in large bodies of water.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    Although risks are small for weapons lost in large bodies of water.
    Which is why they are still lost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Which is why they are still lost.
    Remember the scares about Fukushima? Millions of gallons of highly radioactive water was lost into the Pacific.

    The Pacific just absorbed it all.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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