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    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    Too great a reliance on the words and thoughts of others can serve as a way to avoid doing any serious thinking of one's own.
    On the contrary, reading is much more likely to expand your intellectual horizons and allow you to perceive that the world is a lot more complex than we'd like it to be.
    Whoever criticizes capitalism, while approving immigration, whose working class is its first victim, had better shut up. Whoever criticizes immigration, while remaining silent about capitalism, should do the same.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    It takes intellect to simplify correctly.
    Totalitarians were by no means stupid men. Makes sense.
    Whoever criticizes capitalism, while approving immigration, whose working class is its first victim, had better shut up. Whoever criticizes immigration, while remaining silent about capitalism, should do the same.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    On the contrary, reading is much more likely to expand your intellectual horizons and allow you to perceive that the world is a lot more complex than we'd like it to be.
    I do support reading widely.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    I do support reading widely.
    Whoever criticizes capitalism, while approving immigration, whose working class is its first victim, had better shut up. Whoever criticizes immigration, while remaining silent about capitalism, should do the same.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    Totalitarians were by no means stupid men. Makes sense.
    Totalitarians are not the only ones who simplify.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    Totalitarians are not the only ones who simplify.
    Some things can be simplified. Some things can't. The ideas the OP touches on, for example, cannot. You can't do justice to them by simplifying them. Of course, some intellectuals have tried to make it all about this or that and...well, we saw the results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    Some things can be simplified. Some things can't. The ideas the OP touches on, for example, cannot. You can't do justice to them by simplifying them. Of course, some intellectuals have tried to make it all about this or that and...well, we saw the results.
    Most ideas can be simplified.

    I am biased by my education. As an engineer I was educated to simplify, simplify, simplify until I can understand a thing, gaining insights along the way. Then, once I have a likely solution I can add complexity back in. It worked very well for me allowing me to go from entry level engineer to manager 3 in 12 years.

    I suppose it all depends on the point. In the past I have noted, complained even that some of us fetishize the words of long dead men. I see that as a mistake now. Those who linger lovingly over the words of others have their reasons.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    On the contrary, reading is much more likely to expand your intellectual horizons and allow you to perceive that the world is a lot more complex than we'd like it to be.
    Oh, I absolutely agree with that sentiment. Note, please, that I wrote "To great a reliance on...", etc. Arming oneself with the words and thoughts of those who've come before is invaluable....even essential in many instances. The tendency that I was referring to in a negative way was the attribution of this or that ideology, philosophical tradition or what-have-you to anyone who expresses their personal view on virtually any topic. Criticizing or dismissing someone's opinion on the grounds that it reflects this tradition or the teachings of that scholar or political historian, rather than focusing on the rationality of the opinion itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    Too great a reliance on the words and thoughts of others can serve as a way to avoid doing any serious thinking of one's own.
    Not realizing that most of what you think came from others often leads to simplistic thinking. And repeating the same mistakes over and over, as George Santayana pointed out before me.
    Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. ― Gustav Mahler

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Not realizing that most of what you think came from others often leads to simplistic thinking. And repeating the same mistakes over and over, as George Santayana pointed out before me.
    One can realize and appreciate how others thought without feeling a compulsive need to quote them at every turn. Nor will recognizing the genesis of ideas assure one will be free from error.

    Santayana simplified.
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