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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    None of them are relevant. The President is in his own category. He has absolute authority to declassify information in any way he chooses.
    Not if the president is a republican. It's a new thing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    None of them are relevant. The President is in his own category. He has absolute authority to declassify information in any way he chooses.
    Again, it doesn't matter what Trump did with regard to classification. He cannot magically turn a document with national defense information under the Espionage Act into a document that does not contain such information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardMZhlubb View Post
    Again, it doesn't matter what Trump did with regard to classification. He cannot magically turn a document with national defense information under the Espionage Act into a document that does not contain such information.
    so, now you're working backwards.............having failed at the rest
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedStone7476 View Post
    Trump and a LARGE number of Republicans in our government (AKA the Radical Right Republicans; AKA the Trump-Chumps; AKA the Coup-Coup Bunch)
    When you start out your statement with an insult, you have destroyed all your credibility. I did not bother to read any further.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omar View Post
    When you start out your statement with an insult, you have destroyed all your credibility. I did not bother to read any further.
    He never comes back to defend his septic tank posts
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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardMZhlubb View Post
    You guys need to make up your minds. You complain that DOJ should have given Trump more time to comply voluntarily, and then when it’s pointed out that they gave him multiple chances to comply and he kept withholding documents, you blame DOJ for taking too long before going in and taking the documents back.
    No one is complaining. It is just pointing out your side's hypocrisy. None of the people you are claiming wanted the paperwork back even know what it is an neither do you.
    Let's go Brandon !!!

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    It's fascinating.

    The Trump cultists here never have any success with their lunatic conspiracy theories, but they keep pushing them anyways. I suppose it's a religious thing, like jihadists chanting "Allahu Ahkbar!". The purpose of it isn't to convince outsiders. The purpose of it is to demonstrate to the rest of the cult that you're a very loyal cultist yourself.

    My other favorite conspiracy babble now is the "Attorney-Client Privilege" thing. The Trump cultists are unable to explain how that exists for classified documents stolen from the US governemnt. They're just sure that it does, because it's what they were told.
    If a conservative makes an accusation, it's actually a confession.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mamooth View Post
    It's fascinating.

    The Trump cultists here never have any success with their lunatic conspiracy theories, but they keep pushing them anyways. I suppose it's a religious thing, like jihadists chanting "Allahu Ahkbar!". The purpose of it isn't to convince outsiders. The purpose of it is to demonstrate to the rest of the cult that you're a very loyal cultist yourself.

    My other favorite conspiracy babble now is the "Attorney-Client Privilege" thing. The Trump cultists are unable to explain how that exists for classified documents stolen from the US governemnt. They're just sure that it does, because it's what they were told.
    Conspiracy theories? Huh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardMZhlubb View Post
    Again, it doesn't matter what Trump did with regard to classification. He cannot magically turn a document with national defense information under the Espionage Act into a document that does not contain such information.
    They worked for him. He can do that. Impeachment was the only solution.

    But you are trying to make others defend something you just made up.
    Let's go Brandon !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedStone7476 View Post
    Trump and a LARGE number of Republicans in our government (AKA the Radical Right Republicans; AKA the Trump-Chumps; AKA the Coup-Coup Bunch) have said that we did NOT have to worry about the government documents at Mar-a-Lago, because those documents were NOT classified; and they were not classified because Trump declassified them; and thus the FBI’s action to remove those documents from Mar-a-Lago was NOT necessary.
    I don't care if they were "classified" or not. The federal government is known for manipulating and abusing secrecy laws. The sanctity of "classified" material is a tenet of the "national security" church. A huge amount of corruption, crimes, and lies have been hidden behind government "classification".
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