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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardMZhlubb View Post
    Your characterization of security at Mar-a-lago is profoundly overstated, but it does not matter. The Espionage Act doesn’t require that the documents actually be given to a foreign government, or that the foreign government has potential access to them.
    Another fake charge that you pulled out of your butt. Your team has done this for the last 6 years and you keep shooting blanks.
    Let's go Brandon !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by carolina73 View Post
    Another fake charge that you pulled out of your butt. Your team has done this for the last 6 years and you keep shooting blanks.
    Fake? It’s the plain text of the statute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardMZhlubb View Post
    Fake? It’s the plain text of the statute.
    shame on you, acting like you're some kind of successful lawyer.................
    You wouldn't know a statute from a statue
    I bet 20 dollars that you miss again
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    Quote Originally Posted by stjames1_53 View Post
    shame on you, acting like you're some kind of successful lawyer.................
    You wouldn't know a statute from a statue
    I bet 20 dollars that you miss again
    Anyone who can read English, even those of you without law degrees, can understand what the Espionage Act (18 USC 793) covers. Here are subsections (d) and (e), which cover the failure to return certain national defense documents. Note that they apply if the person holding the documents (d) "willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it on demand to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it" or (e) "willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it." They don't require that the documents actually be gven to or be accessible by a foreign power.

    (d)Whoever, lawfully having possession of, access to, control over, or being entrusted with any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note relating to the national defense, or information relating to the national defense which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it on demand to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it; or

    (e)Whoever having unauthorized possession of, access to, or control over any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note relating to the national defense, or information relating to the national defense which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted, or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it; or

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardMZhlubb View Post
    Anyone who can read English, even those of you without law degrees, can understand what the Espionage Act (18 USC 793) covers. Here are subsections (d) and (e), which cover the failure to return certain national defense documents. Note that they apply if the person holding the documents (d) "willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it on demand to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it" or (e) "willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it." They don't require that the documents actually be gven to or be accessible by a foreign power.
    So, no.............you're not going to take that bet.............how'd I know that
    they haven't got anything and neither do you
    I'd like to add:
    You're going to die with Trump on the brain. You are that that obsessed with him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stjames1_53 View Post
    So, no.............you're not going to take that bet.............how'd I know that
    they haven't got anything and neither do you
    I'd like to add:
    You're going to die with Trump on the brain. You are that that obsessed with him.
    Nah, Trump will be dead or in prison long before I die (I hope). I'll ignore him when he's gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardMZhlubb View Post
    Nah, Trump will be dead or in prison long before I die (I hope). I'll ignore him when he's gone.
    It's impossible for you. You'll remember this forever and cause you angst all over again and again.
    So, again, aside from all of that bad news, what happens after Trump?
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