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    'The Constitutional Flaw That's Killing American Democracy'

    The damage the Trump administration did to American freedoms and democracy is difficult to measure. For most of us the damage is irrelevant - to our personal lives - but for others, personal freedom and even our environment, it is a tragedy.

    "The recent set of watershed Supreme Court opinions pulsates with the language of democratic accountability. Dobbs v. Jackson, overruling Roe v. Wade, makes its refrain the promise to “return” the abortion question "to the people and their elected representatives." Concurring in West Virginia v. EPA, which restricts regulators' ability to decarbonize the electricity grid, Justice Neil Gorsuch explained that the point of the decision was to keep power in the hands of "the people's representatives" rather than "a ruling class of largely unaccountable 'ministers.'" In New York State Rifle and Pistol Association v. Bruen, which struck down New York State’s 117-year-old limitation on carrying weapons, Justice Clarence Thomas presented the Court's severe, originalist approach to the Second Amendment as a vindication of a judgment 'by the people' against wishy-washy federal judges who had let the restriction stand. Indeed, while these opinions have little in common besides their conservative outcomes—Dobbs eliminated a personal right, Bruen expanded a right, and West Virginia curtailed agency interpretations of statutes such as the Clean Air Act—they all claim to protect the rightful power of "the people.""

    'David Litt: A court without precedent'

    "Liberal critics, in turn, have appealed to democracy in attacking the Court as "radical" and "illegitimate." Majorities tend to support abortion rights, climate action, and gun control, they point out, so whatever mythic "people" the justices have in mind, they are going against those people as they actually exist today. Calls to add justices to the Court, deny it jurisdiction over certain cases, or even impeach some conservative justices all come in the name of greater democratic control. Some progressives hope to get back to a more democratic Constitution, whether it is in the spirit of the reformist Warren Court of the 1950s and '60s (the Court that gave us Brown v. Board of Education and the one-person-one-vote principle); the New Deal vision of a "second bill of rights," including rights to good work and economic security; or even an 'abolition constitution' rooted in radical traditions of freedom and equality."

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...ocracy/671155/
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    There's no such thing as American democracy. And it's good that the Constitution prevents that from happening.
    Cutesy Time is OVER

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    "they all claim to protect the rightful power of 'the people.'" is promoting democracy.

    "Majorities"--we're not a majoritarian democracy.

    When Democrats say democracy they just mean their agenda.


    So where's 'The Constitutional Flaw That's Killing American Democracy'???
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    Trump did not cause any damage to our freedoms
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    "they all claim to protect the rightful power of 'the people.'" is promoting democracy.

    "Majorities"--we're not a majoritarian democracy.

    When Democrats say democracy they just mean their agenda.


    So where's 'The Constitutional Flaw That's Killing American Democracy'???
    The Constitution itself is "the flaw".
    Cutesy Time is OVER

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    This points to no flaw in the Constitution, just the left's hatred for the Constitution.
    Quote Originally Posted by midcan5 View Post
    The damage the Trump administration did to American freedoms and democracy is difficult to measure. For most of us the damage is irrelevant - to our personal lives - but for others, personal freedom and even our environment, it is a tragedy.

    "The recent set of watershed Supreme Court opinions pulsates with the language of democratic accountability. Dobbs v. Jackson, overruling Roe v. Wade, makes its refrain the promise to “return” the abortion question "to the people and their elected representatives." Concurring in West Virginia v. EPA, which restricts regulators' ability to decarbonize the electricity grid, Justice Neil Gorsuch explained that the point of the decision was to keep power in the hands of "the people's representatives" rather than "a ruling class of largely unaccountable 'ministers.'" In New York State Rifle and Pistol Association v. Bruen, which struck down New York State’s 117-year-old limitation on carrying weapons, Justice Clarence Thomas presented the Court's severe, originalist approach to the Second Amendment as a vindication of a judgment 'by the people' against wishy-washy federal judges who had let the restriction stand. Indeed, while these opinions have little in common besides their conservative outcomes—Dobbs eliminated a personal right, Bruen expanded a right, and West Virginia curtailed agency interpretations of statutes such as the Clean Air Act—they all claim to protect the rightful power of "the people.""

    'David Litt: A court without precedent'

    "Liberal critics, in turn, have appealed to democracy in attacking the Court as "radical" and "illegitimate." Majorities tend to support abortion rights, climate action, and gun control, they point out, so whatever mythic "people" the justices have in mind, they are going against those people as they actually exist today. Calls to add justices to the Court, deny it jurisdiction over certain cases, or even impeach some conservative justices all come in the name of greater democratic control. Some progressives hope to get back to a more democratic Constitution, whether it is in the spirit of the reformist Warren Court of the 1950s and '60s (the Court that gave us Brown v. Board of Education and the one-person-one-vote principle); the New Deal vision of a "second bill of rights," including rights to good work and economic security; or even an 'abolition constitution' rooted in radical traditions of freedom and equality."

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...ocracy/671155/
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    now, y'all really don't expect midcan to come back and defend his septic posts.
    You might go visit his site. Maybe he'll hand around there long enough to berate you even further.
    Stupid ass thinks he's a big shot cuz he has a blog site
    Midcan5's Blog

    he must be JM because he's quoting himself..............
    He's a stooge
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    Quote Originally Posted by midcan5 View Post
    The damage the Trump administration did to American freedoms and democracy is difficult to measure. For most of us the damage is irrelevant - to our personal lives - but for others, personal freedom and even our environment, it is a tragedy.

    "The recent set of watershed Supreme Court opinions pulsates with the language of democratic accountability. Dobbs v. Jackson, overruling Roe v. Wade, makes its refrain the promise to “return” the abortion question "to the people and their elected representatives." Concurring in West Virginia v. EPA, which restricts regulators' ability to decarbonize the electricity grid, Justice Neil Gorsuch explained that the point of the decision was to keep power in the hands of "the people's representatives" rather than "a ruling class of largely unaccountable 'ministers.'" In New York State Rifle and Pistol Association v. Bruen, which struck down New York State’s 117-year-old limitation on carrying weapons, Justice Clarence Thomas presented the Court's severe, originalist approach to the Second Amendment as a vindication of a judgment 'by the people' against wishy-washy federal judges who had let the restriction stand. Indeed, while these opinions have little in common besides their conservative outcomes—Dobbs eliminated a personal right, Bruen expanded a right, and West Virginia curtailed agency interpretations of statutes such as the Clean Air Act—they all claim to protect the rightful power of "the people.""

    'David Litt: A court without precedent'

    "Liberal critics, in turn, have appealed to democracy in attacking the Court as "radical" and "illegitimate." Majorities tend to support abortion rights, climate action, and gun control, they point out, so whatever mythic "people" the justices have in mind, they are going against those people as they actually exist today. Calls to add justices to the Court, deny it jurisdiction over certain cases, or even impeach some conservative justices all come in the name of greater democratic control. Some progressives hope to get back to a more democratic Constitution, whether it is in the spirit of the reformist Warren Court of the 1950s and '60s (the Court that gave us Brown v. Board of Education and the one-person-one-vote principle); the New Deal vision of a "second bill of rights," including rights to good work and economic security; or even an 'abolition constitution' rooted in radical traditions of freedom and equality."

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...ocracy/671155/
    you don't understand anything at all.
    Quoting yourself is a liar's trick
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    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote" B. Franklin
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