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    A Decade After the First Reason Rally, What Happened to America’s Atheist Revolution?

    Discussed in another thread, modern atheism arose as a consequence of the Protestant Reformation. As you move from Catholocism to Protestanism to atheism you get increasing variety of worldviews to the point worldview seems to diffuse and dissipate in entropy. Here's another explanation.

    A Decade After the First Reason Rally, What Happened to America’s Atheist Revolution?

    Ten years ago, thousands of atheists, humanists, and skeptics descended by the busload upon the National Mall in Washington to attend the Reason Rally, the largest-ever gathering of nonbelievers. “We’re here, we’re godless, get used to it,” chanted the crowd, estimated to have between 10,000 and 30,000 people. For America’s growing non-religious movement, it was a jubilant coming-out-of-the-closet party.

    ...What happened to America’s promised atheist political revolution?

    “They were delusional,” said Jacques Berlinerblau, a Georgetown University professor who researches secularism and politics. He points to early “manifestos” written by leading atheist thinkers in the aughts, in which they predicted a force of more than 27 million non-believers who would take American politics by storm. “They see this data on the ‘nones,’ and they assume that all these people in that category are fellow travelers.​​”

    Now, a decade after that first rally, the under-resourced non-religious voting bloc seems no closer to competing with the so-called Religious Right, which so many Reason Ralliers had sought to overpower. Growing atheist backlash against Christian nationalism has proven impotent in the face of President Donald Trump’s ascent to power, the January 6 insurrection, and a slate of pivotal Supreme Court decisions that undermine church-state separation. These verdicts include overturning federal abortion protections, allowing public funding for private religious schools, and gutting the Lemon test in its ruling in favor of a coach who prayed on the football field after games.

    Critics say that today’s atheist movement is asleep at the wheel....

    Observers say that the movement’s current impotence is in part due to atheist and humanist leaders’ inability in the 2010s to unite and mobilize the religiously unaffiliated. Some of these so-called “nones” identify as atheists and agnostics; but about one in five Americans identify as “nothing in particular.” The individuals—as they can hardly be called a “group”—have particularly low levels of social and political engagement.

    “The demographic shift is shifting away from organized religion, but not to organized anything else, which makes it all but impossible to ask them to do anything,” Mehta said. “Because most of them are apathetic. They’re not atheists.”...
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    Atheist activists are as deluded as theist fanatics.
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    I agree. In short, there's little difference between them. What they think may differ but not how--both can be reasonable. some of both are activists, some of both are live and let live. Other than one offers a coherent worldview and the other does not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    I agree. In short, there's little difference between them. What they think may differ but not how--both can be reasonable. some of both are activists, some of both are live and let live. Other than one offers a coherent worldview and the other does not.
    One addresses the fears and uncertainties of men and gives the rules by which to live. It allows them to believe there is more than just the world in front of them.

    It is a crutch.

    The other just doesn't accept the idea of some celestial guiding hand and pretty much takes the approach of what you see is what you get.
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    It's practically impossible to organize people around not believing in something. It's the same problem with arguing about "atheist leaders." You can't really have leaders of a group that doesn't really function as a group. I'm an atheist, but I feel no need for or compulsion to associated with other non-believers. It's just who I am.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cletus View Post
    One addresses the fears and uncertainties of men and gives the rules by which to live. It allows them to believe there is more than just the world in front of them.

    It is a crutch.

    The other just doesn't accept the idea of some celestial guiding hand and pretty much takes the approach of what you see is what you get.

    We all live by rules, from religion/government down to personal ones. Rules could be seen as crutches, guiding, helping us through life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardMZhlubb View Post
    It's practically impossible to organize people around not believing in something. It's the same problem with arguing about "atheist leaders." You can't really have leaders of a group that doesn't really function as a group. I'm an atheist, but I feel no need for or compulsion to associated with other non-believers. It's just who I am.
    The rally in DC lent itself to that belief and leadership.

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    As with lefties in general the more activist types tend to be the most ego centric and obnoxious. But it goes without saying they do not speak for a majority how ever large that might be?
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