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Thread: China Could Decide Now Is The Time For War With America

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Xl View Post
    Do we really? I don't see it. No one could ever wage an offensive war against us, but a powerful nation could easily wage a defensive war or a proxy war against us. Americans don't have the desire to fight anything other than a minor proxy war with a weak nation. The American people barely tolerated Vietnam and Iraq.

    We have a failing culture, a failing economic system, mass distrust in our politicians and military, etc. We are a failing country living off of the residuals of our past glory. If we don't focus on righting the ship, we will eventually go the way of Rome.
    OK, we are both right and wrong.

    We do, as they say, shoot our load at the wrong target. Too often.

    But if necessary we could marshal resources and solve any short-term issue.
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    This might not be the accepted view but I believe that all world nations are collaborating together. If there is a war it will be by design, perhaps to reduce world populations, and usher in a new order.
    We are all brothers and sisters in humanity. We are all made from the same dust of stars. We cannot be separated because all life is interconnected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just AnotherPerson View Post
    This might not be the accepted view but I believe that all world nations are collaborating together. If there is a war it will be by design, perhaps to reduce world populations, and usher in a new order.
    Pushing the Russians to the point of using nuclear weapons certainly would reduce the world's population. It's insane because their is no reason for our involvement in this conflict. The Russian military is objectively not a threat to us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Xl View Post
    Do we really? I don't see it. No one could ever wage an offensive war against us, but a powerful nation could easily wage a defensive war or a proxy war against us. Americans don't have the desire to fight anything other than a minor proxy war with a weak nation. The American people barely tolerated Vietnam and Iraq.

    We have a failing culture, a failing economic system, mass distrust in our politicians and military, etc. We are a failing country living off of the residuals of our past glory. If we don't focus on righting the ship, we will eventually go the way of Rome.
    Uhhh. No one could wage any defensive war against us should we allow the military to actually war. If we're permitted to ground and pound there is no defense.

    If politicians get in the way, if the President panhandles. If covert realpolitik is used...disaster. Hand the military reigns over WWII style and you'll have no defenses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Xl View Post
    Pushing the Russians to the point of using nuclear weapons certainly would reduce the world's population. It's insane because their is no reason for our involvement in this conflict. The Russian military is objectively not a threat to us.
    True, and we also goaded them into the war in the first place. Biden told them that he would only sanction Nord Stream if they invaded Ukraine, but then decided to sanction them anyways and not long after that move Russia invaded Ukraine. Biden gets to come out looking like the hero, but he pushed their hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransom View Post
    Uhhh. No one could wage any defensive war against us should we allow the military to actually war. If we're permitted to ground and pound there is no defense.

    If politicians get in the way, if the President panhandles. If covert realpolitik is used...disaster. Hand the military reigns over WWII style and you'll have no defenses.
    The US military was firmly under the control of politicians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransom View Post
    Uhhh. No one could wage any defensive war against us should we allow the military to actually war. If we're permitted to ground and pound there is no defense.

    If politicians get in the way, if the President panhandles. If covert realpolitik is used...disaster. Hand the military reigns over WWII style and you'll have no defenses.
    If we just went scorched Earth it wouldn't work. Firstly, it would make us look bad, evil even, to most of our civilians and to a lot of the world. Secondly, if the power we were $#@!ing up was a nuclear power, they would most likely respond with nuclear strikes.

    This isn't even bringing up the relatively unspoken truth of biological warfare. Covid was most likely man made and brought the world to its knees, and it was a weak virus. Most of these countries likely have viruses with 50%+ kill rates. The era of coming in and $#@!ing $#@! up is over. Even significantly weaker countries would have methods of really hurting our country, perhaps to the point of total collapse, if they were truly cornered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransom View Post
    Uhhh. No one could wage any defensive war against us should we allow the military to actually war. If we're permitted to ground and pound there is no defense.

    If politicians get in the way, if the President panhandles. If covert realpolitik is used...disaster. Hand the military reigns over WWII style and you'll have no defenses.
    The US capacity to $#@! anyone's day up is well documented.
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    Just a friendly reminder that all of these world economic forum talking heads have talked about how wonderful it would be if the worlds population was reduced by 50-90%. And those people are the ones in control of our media, politicians, and military. Just food for thought. They all have nuclear bunkers, by the way.

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