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    Misunderstanding Equality

    Misunderstanding Equality reviews a longstanding leftist misunderstanding of "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

    ...They [the left] have conflated the laudable ethical claim that all humans deserve dignity, respect, and equal moral consideration with the implausible empirical claim that humans are born with roughly the same characteristics and capabilities. This conflation has led to fear, antipathy, and even censorship of writings that examine human variation on socially valued traits because it has encouraged the erroneous idea that human variation is a threat to moral equality.

    The far-Left, of course, has long been attracted to a view of humans as malleable and almost biologically interchangeable. And it has long argued that the contrary view—that humans are biologically limited creatures who vary widely in potential—is primarily an ideological weapon used to defend the status quo by arguing that inequality is natural and inevitable. Therefore, the moral misunderstandings and confusions that arise from the conflation of “created equal” with “created the same” are not new. Indeed, they have a long history and have inspired furious denunciations of sociobiology, evolutionary psychology, and behavioral genetics (as well as thoughtful and ethically insightful responses).

    ...It is therefore worth repeating that created equal does not mean created the same on all socially valued traits. For science will continue to reveal genetically caused differences among individuals, groups, and sexes. And if confusion between the moral and the empirical persists, we will find ourselves asked to choose between the truth and our ethical preferences. The good news in this otherwise gloomy scenario is that no such choice is required. Moral equality is not premised on physical or psychological sameness; it is premised on a commitment to human dignity....
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    The left has abandoned the concept of equality. They now promote “equity” as they can redefine what that means as they go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    The left has abandoned the concept of equality. They now promote “equity” as they can redefine what that means as they go.
    Yes, and "equity" means guaranteed sameness of outcomes.

    This fetish for "equity" is a result of the fact that the left believes that these outcomes would all the the same, except for socially imposed obstacles to some...

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    I have long maintained that the left confuses equality with sameness.

    This article does a very good job of pointing out the difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pjohns View Post
    Yes, and "equity" means guaranteed sameness of outcomes.

    This fetish for "equity" is a result of the fact that the left believes that these outcomes would all the the same, except for socially imposed obstacles to some...

    I'm not sure it guarantees sameness in the present but in response to perceived inequities in the past the enacting reverse equities now in hopes of creating an equity future, though how inequity is supposed to lead to equity is never explained, merely assumed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pjohns View Post
    Yes, and "equity" means guaranteed sameness of outcomes. ...
    It means whatever liberals say it means in any particular situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    I'm not sure it guarantees sameness in the present but in response to perceived inequities in the past...
    Yes, there have certainly been inequities "in the past"--against several different groups, but most notably, against African Americans.

    Too often, however, this is a mere excuse for failure in the present.

    For instance, Jews have been the objects of antisemitism in the past--not nearly so much nowadays--yet they have, as a group, succeeded spectacularly.

    But liberals have a ready answer for this: It is called "institutional racism," or "structural racism" (which is then claimed to be ongoing)...

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