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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardMZhlubb View Post
    Do you have any actual sources for those numbers? The fact is, however, that it is not an error if Congressional districts are apportioned based on people in the district, including documented and undocumented immigrants. It was the drafters of the 14th Amendment who concluded that Congressional apportionment was to be done based on the numbers of persons (not just citizens) residing within a district.

    Sure. Here's just one study:

    https://cis.org/Report/Impact-Legal-...entatives-2020

    Non-Citizens vs. "One Man, One Vote". There are a significant number of congressional districts in high immigration states where a larger share of voting-age people are non-citizens and, as a result, it takes relatively few votes to elect a member of Congress. Taking away representation from states composed almost entirely of U.S. citizens so that districts can be created where a large share of the population is made up of non-citizens can be seen as in conflict with the principle of "one man, one vote". In the 2018 election in the five congressional districts where the largest share of the voting-age population were not citizens, only 132,000 votes were cast on average. In the five districts with the smallest non-citizen shares, 232,000 votes were cast on average. If nothing else, it means it takes far fewer votes to win a House seat in a district where a large share of adults is made up of non-citizens. Allowing in a large number of legal immigrants and tolerating illegal immigration has created a situation in which the votes of American citizens living in low-immigration districts count much less than those of citizens is living in high-immigration districts.While it's clear that American citizens in low-immigration states lose from mass immigration, the winners are not necessarily the non-citizens who cause the reapportionment, since they cannot vote or otherwise fully take part in the political process. Instead, it is citizens who live in the same districts with non-citizens whose political power is enhanced. Put simply, in a district in which a large share of the population cannot vote, those who do vote count more than citizens in districts where almost everyone is an American citizen. Put a different way, large non-citizen populations take voting power from some Americans and give it to other American citizens in high-immigration districts.

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    How come election law errors census errors, and other rules always benefit Democrats?

    You first need to determine how many votes you need before you figure out a way to pluck them out of thin air.
    When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.“ - Benjamin Franklin.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    How come election law errors census errors, and other rules always benefit Democrats?


    You first need to determine how many votes you need before you figure out a way to pluck them out of thin air.
    I think the number for November is "all of them"





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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    How come election law errors census errors, and other rules always benefit Democrats?

    There is no valid or rational answer to that question.
    Of course there is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardMZhlubb View Post
    This is complete gibberish. Congressional districts are established AFTER the statewide census results are in.
    You are aware you just proved his point. Very similar to, as I predicted, the entire purpose of non-polling station votes be disclosed AFTER the polls are closed and the amount of votes needing to be ‘found’ has been determined.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardMZhlubb View Post
    Don’t believe everything you read online. (Stalin never said that.)
    That is a paraphrasing, but yes he did.
    So did Napoleon and others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardMZhlubb View Post
    Of course that quote is talking about control of the Russian Communist Party, where the concept of any sort of voting rights was largely a joke. In the context of an actual election, the quote is nonsense (at least to date) and completely irrelevant to this thread.
    Thar was naught but a deflection.

    So your point is that Stalin couldn’t have been claiming Soviet elections were rigged, because Soviet elections were rigged?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardMZhlubb View Post
    What does any of that have to do with the census and congressional apportionment? And saying that the people who vote don’t decide an election is nonsense.
    Your first question leads me to wonder if you have a working fifth grade civics understanding of how our republic would work if it functioned within its own rules.

    Your closing statement displays incredible naivete’.

    Going to the Soviets again … Kruschev bragged about interfering in the 1960 election to elect JFK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    How come election law errors census errors, and other rules always benefit Democrats?
    You first need to determine how many votes you need before you figure out a way to pluck them out of thin air.
    That's why you need to count early votes and have election week instead of election day. It takes time to fudge the numbers, and sometimes election workers don't want to stay at the polling place until 5 AM running the same pile of ballots through the machine for the tenth time.

    Oddly enough, I don't remember a single county that discovered Dominion voting machine malfunctions that found that they had undercounted Biden votes, or counted Biden votes as Trump votes. Not a one. Seems they all just automagically knew to screw Trump.
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