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    The fate of Free Speech will be decided soon.

    If Elon Musk buys Twitter and Republicans win Midterms, then Freedom will likely certainly win.


    If Elon Musk does not Twitter and Republicans lose Midterms, then Freedom will almost certainly lose.


    If one condition of two is met, then our chances for Freedom are 50-50.


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    Wake me up when Musk says he's going to unban all the folks the leftist H1b visa holders banned because they said "stop the steal".

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCitizen View Post
    If Elon Musk buys Twitter and Republicans win Midterms, then Freedom will likely certainly win.


    If Elon Musk does not Twitter and Republicans lose Midterms, then Freedom will almost certainly lose.


    If one condition of two is met, then our chances for Freedom are 50-50.


    I am very worried now and have almost no one to talk to.


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    Idk if I'd equate Musk owning Twitter as being super-crucial to freedom of speech.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCitizen View Post
    If Elon Musk buys Twitter and Republicans win Midterms, then Freedom will likely certainly win.
    Even if both those things happen, it will just be the latest round. Like Reagan said, Freedom is never less than a generation away from extinction, it has to be fought for. It will be on the ballot again in 2024.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt DilIon View Post
    Idk if I'd equate Musk owning Twitter as being super-crucial to freedom of speech.
    Leftists are trying to establish complete control over Mass Media and Social Media.


    Even if Republicans win, Democrats will not lose -- thy would still have Freedom. If Democrats win, everyone else will lose their Freedom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CCitizen View Post
    If Elon Musk buys Twitter and Republicans win Midterms, then Freedom will likely certainly win.


    If Elon Musk does not Twitter and Republicans lose Midterms, then Freedom will almost certainly lose.


    If one condition of two is met, then our chances for Freedom are 50-50.


    I am very worried now and have almost no one to talk to.


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    If Elon Musk purchases a controlling interest in Twitter, a privately-owned social media platform, he will be free to operate it as he sees fit - just as are its current owners. He will be free to promote and encourage, and to sanction and restrict, any comments he wants to - just as are its current owners. If he chooses to let anyone say anything on his platform that it is legal to publicly say, that will be his prerogative.

    Freedom, more precisely freedom of speech, has nothing whatsoever to do with it.

    Should Musk get tired of playing with Twitter five or ten years down the road and sells it to some individual or group that elects to restrict what they consider to be "left wing" speech, again - no one's "freedom" is affected. The freedom to use someone else's property to recruit, lecture or proselytize, or even just to make statements that are counter to what the owner believes or supports, does not exist.
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    If just some Internet providers ban non-Progressive views, then non-Progressives still have other avenues. If all Internet providers ban non-Progressive views then we are living in a Totalitarian Society.


    I still support everyone's Free Speech Rights. Now I will also support First Amendment Rights of Progressive Dissenters in Russia and China.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CCitizen View Post
    If just some Internet providers ban non-Progressive views, then non-Progressives still have other avenues. If all Internet providers ban non-Progressive views then we are living in a Totalitarian Society. ...
    First, social media platforms are not "Internet providers". The Internet is full of a multitude of diverse views and content, from the benign and even beautiful, to the profane, the disgusting and the just plain weird. Social media is only a tiny part of what is accessible on the Internet. If you meant to say that if all social media platforms "ban Progressive views then we are living in a Totalitarian Society", that is a wildly exaggerated view of such sites' importance.

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    ... I still support everyone's Free Speech Rights. ...
    That's good - as long as you understand what constitutes an American's "Free Speech Rights" and what does not. Neither my free speech rights or yours entitle us to utilize someone else's property to convey a message to others. You have no right to plant your favored candidate's political campaign sign on my lawn, and I have no right to insist that you permit me to tape up an advertisement sign on the front window of your business.

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    ... Now I will also support First Amendment Rights of Progressive Dissenters in Russia and China.
    I'm going to simply suggest that you read that statement a few times and try to find the basic flaw in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    First, social media platforms are not "Internet providers". The Internet is full of a multitude of diverse views and content, from the benign and even beautiful, to the profane, the disgusting and the just plain weird. Social media is only a tiny part of what is accessible on the Internet. If you meant to say that if all social media platforms "ban Progressive views then we are living in a Totalitarian Society", that is a wildly exaggerated view of such sites' importance.
    Sadly, Progressives are trying to make sure that no Internet Providers are available to host sites which allow disagreement with them. They tried very hard to deplatform Gab and Parler. If they succeed, then no criticism of their ideology will be accessible online. That will be Totalitarian Dystopia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    I'm going to simply suggest that you read that statement a few times and try to find the basic flaw in it.
    Progressive Dissidents in Russia and China have the First Amendment right not to be punished by American Laws. Nevertheless, they can and should be punished by Laws of their Nations.
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