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    Stanford University: Center for International Security and Cooperation

    https://cisac.fsi.stanford.edu/mappi...azov-battalion

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    The Azov Battalion is an extreme-right nationalist paramilitary organization based in Ukraine. Founded in 2014, the group promotes Ukrainian nationalism and neo-Nazism through its National Militia paramilitary organization and National Corps political wing. It is notable for its recruitment of far-right foreign fighters from the U.S. and Europe as well as its extensive transnational ties with other far-right organizations. In 2022, the group came to prominence again for fighting against Russian forces in Kyiv, Kharkiv, and Mariupol.
    Scholars at Stanford are pining for Putin, too! Why do so many people have the hots for Putin? Is he really that sexy? You be the judge:

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    And this only covers the Azov regiment (formerly Azov battalion), there is also Svoboda and Right Sector, both of which are neo-fascist groups that have about 25,000 members between them.

    It's amazing. Liberals can find fascists and Nazis all over the place in America. Pretty much anyone who voted for Trump is a "fascist" according to some liberals. Yet when there are thousands of hardcore fascists crawling all over Ukraine, these same liberals suddenly go blind. Now that's some cognitive dissonance!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense View Post
    Someone has a crush on Putin,
    By the way, kind of ironic when you think about it. I've done as much as you have to fight Putin, which is exactly nothing. Unless you count running your mouth on the internet and putting up a Ukraine flag on your Facebook profile, then you've done a great deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Facts are facts. Western Ukraine has a history of collaborating with Nazis and with fascism in general, a historical thread that still exists to this day. And your cheap smears say far more about you than they do about me.
    I have no problem with the truth about the Ukraine. My father lived in WWII Poland and he told me about the Ukrainian collaborators who were shipping Poles off to concentration camps. It really affected his attitude toward Ukrainians. Like you, I don't understand ignoring the popularity of Neo-Nazi views in western Ukraine or how their government can arm these Neo-Nazi paramilitary thugs and turn a blind eye to their atrocities in eastern Ukraine unless they actually support purging the cultural and linguistic Russians from the region. It's not a popular view because we are supposed to regard Putin as a demonic megalomaniac and Russia as hopelessly corrupt. Well Putin isn't exactly my cup of tea but Ukraine is a corrupt cesspool that has been declining economically for years because of its own corruption and it has been mistreating the people in the east from the beginning. As for Zelenskyy, he's an opportunist of the highest order and doesn't care how many of his people die in this conflict. Perhaps he thinks that after all the dust settles, the west will inject mass quantities of cash into the Ukrainian economy and bring Ukraine into the EU fold.
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    The Rus-Kievs have been in conflict for 1000 years. What is happening today is not new.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Sure, look where the majority of the kill sites and concentration camps inside Ukraine are located. Then extrapolate.
    They were wherever the Germans wanted them, dummy. Those triangles were death camps too—a pity you have to lie to make your point.
    Last edited by Captdon; 11-07-2022 at 02:31 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Facts are facts. Western Ukraine has a history of collaborating with Nazis and with fascism in general, a historical thread that still exists to this day. And your cheap smears say far more about you than they do about me.
    They welcomed the Germans as saviors from the USSR. Then they found out the Nazis were worse. That's all it ever was. Try reading history.
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    Notice a pattern here. The US is always wrong. Stooge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    I guess John Conyers must have a crush on Putin, too.
    OMG. A thousand of them out of 40 million Ukrainians. I wonder if we have a lot more that that in the USA? You know the answer.


    John Conyers. Where have I heard that name before. Oh yeah. Didn't he just lead the charge to push gun control legislation for Mitch.

    That's your guy?
    Let's go Brandon !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captdon View Post
    They were wherever the Germans wanted them, dummy. Those triangles were death camps too—a pity you have to lie to make your point.
    So, we should not bomb Poland for having some of those German facilities? LOL
    Let's go Brandon !!!

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