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    All Quiet On The Western Front

    So I put politics and everything else aside and watched the new All Quiet On The Western Front on Netflix last night. I haven’t watched a movie in months. Those poor WW1 soldiers. Cannon/machine gun fodder. The wounded dying out in No-man's-land was just like some Civil War battles fought in entrenched positions.

    I don't think I ever saw the black-n-white movie version. I saw the 1979 version with Richard Thomas, Ernest Borgnine and Patricia Neal several times although it's been a few years since the last time.

    The newest version is in German with German actors and English subtitles. There are lengthy scenes of at least a couple of subjects that I don't recall being in the 1979 version. The newest version is 2 hours and 20-something minutes long.

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    It was a great film.




    I read the other day that Hitler had banned the original.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    It was a great film.




    I read the other day that Hitler had banned the original.
    Unlike his fictional hero, Remarque was a pacifist and conscript from the Summer of 1917. Hitler, and millions of other men, were volunteers in 1914 and 1915 and thought that Remarque had no right to speak for them.

    Unfortunately, this novel distorted perceptions of the war and leaves contemporary readers with the idea that this is how most men processed and understood their experiences at the front. If you any of you are interested, I'd recommend balancing AQ with Ernst Junger's Storm of Steel which is a genuine memoir and better written, IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    Unlike his fictional hero, Remarque was a pacifist and conscript from the Summer of 1917. Hitler, and millions of other men, were volunteers in 1914 and 1915 and thought that Remarque had no right to speak for them.

    Unfortunately, this novel distorted perceptions of the war and leaves contemporary readers with the idea that this is how most men processed and understood their experiences at the front. If you any of you are interested, I'd recommend balancing AQ with Ernst Junger's Storm of Steel which is a genuine memoir and better written, IMO.

    I was looking up the origins of the movie, the book by Remarque and also came across Ernst Junger's Storm of Steel. My impression from the movie was Remarque thought the men who fought somewhat heroic but held the generals and other leaders in contempt in the final charge (not to give away the plot). "Gallipol," from the other side, had a similar theme to "All Quiet."
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    Very good movie
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    I was looking up the origins of the movie, the book by Remarque and also came across Ernst Junger's Storm of Steel. My impression from the movie was Remarque thought the men who fought somewhat heroic but held the generals and other leaders in contempt in the final charge (not to give away the plot). "Gallipol," from the other side, had a similar theme to "All Quiet."
    For Remarque, whose experience of battle was far more limited than his fictional hero's, it was a tragic, pointless waste with no redeeming value. My only point is that this is NOT how most veterans understood their experiences.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    Unlike his fictional hero, Remarque was a pacifist and conscript from the Summer of 1917. Hitler, and millions of other men, were volunteers in 1914 and 1915 and thought that Remarque had no right to speak for them.

    Unfortunately, this novel distorted perceptions of the war and leaves contemporary readers with the idea that this is how most men processed and understood their experiences at the front. If you any of you are interested, I'd recommend balancing AQ with Ernst Junger's Storm of Steel which is a genuine memoir and better written, IMO.
    It's not my only source of information or entertainment on WW1. The History Channel's 5 part series Apocalypse World War One was very good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdtex View Post
    It's not my only source of information or entertainment on WW1. The History Channel's 5 part series Apocalypse World War One was very good.
    That was in the spirit of Remarque's novel. That documentary was a very obvious product of the war's literary history.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    For Remarque, whose experience of battle was far more limited than his fictional hero's, it was a tragic, pointless waste with no redeeming value. My only point is that this is NOT how most veterans understood their experiences.
    The once was fiction, the other memoir, so that makes sense.
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    I can't watch a movie with subtitles, regardless of how good it might be.

    Hell, I don't even like closed captioning...

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