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    Is Judaism a Younger Religion Than Previously Thought?

    This finding/theory could have serious ramifications.

    Is Judaism a Younger Religion Than Previously Thought?

    It’s the grandparent of Islam and Christianity and one of the world’s oldest surviving religions, by some counts dating back nearly 4,000 years. This, at least, has long been a common view of Judaism. But now an Israeli archaeologist is challenging those long-held assumptions.

    Based on 15 years of studying textual and archaeological evidence, Yonatan Adler of Ariel University, in the West Bank, concludes that ordinary Judeans didn’t consistently celebrate Passover, hold the Sabbath sacred or practice other traditional forms of Jewish ritual until a century or so before the birth of Jesus. If his theory proves correct, then Judaism is, at best, Christianity’s elder sibling and a younger cousin to the religions of ancient Greece and Rome.

    Adler lays out his case in The Origins of Judaism, a new book published Tuesday by Yale University Press. He argues that standard Jewish practices, from ritual bathing to avoiding representational images of humans and animals, didn’t come into widespread use until around 100 B.C.E.

    That date is some 900 years after the Israelites settled in Jerusalem, which became the center of a region later known as Judea. It’s also several centuries after most scholars believe that Judean scribes in Jerusalem put together the books of the Hebrew Bible—a document long seen as the basis of Judaism. According to Adler, while some Judeans may have known about the religion’s rules and prohibitions, this “does not imply that anybody was necessarily putting [them] into practice.”

    Adler examined artifacts from dozens of excavations in the Levant, as well as ancient texts, including the Bible, to determine how people behaved in the centuries before the Romans destroyed Jerusalem in 70 C.E. His analysis has won initial praise from some Near Eastern archaeologists and textual scholars who have examined the arguments laid out in the book. “He makes a good case that is certainly worth considering seriously,” says Jodi Magness, an archaeologist at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill with extensive experience excavating in Israel. Harald Samuel, a classical Hebrew expert at the University of Oxford in England, says, “Adler’s work is absolutely solid.”

    The new findings challenge conventional wisdom that assumes Jewish practices evolved in the same era as the Hebrew Bible was written—a view that Samuel argues will be hard to alter. They are also likely to raise broader questions of what constitutes Judaism and religion more generally....
    Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. ― Gustav Mahler

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    I don't think Judaism is younger than previously taught, but certainly some of the ritualistic traditions may have become widely practiced or even required later on.

    I think making the claim that Judaism is younger than thought is stretching his evidence a bit too far. Or making too vague a conclusion, which is what often happens to generate interest...

    They just found a Hebrew "curse tablet" from circa 1200BC.

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    Even in the early verses of the Bible they describe the loss/change of belief by the Hebrew tribes.
    I don't think that a high point is the mark of when a religion started is based on a comeback.

    When you have to go underground to practice your religion, because your land is occupied then you are going to leave far less evidence.
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    The Smithsonian loves the anti-religious sensationalist type articles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LescoBrandon View Post
    I don't think Judaism is younger than previously taught, but certainly some of the ritualistic traditions may have become widely practiced or even required later on.

    I think making the claim that Judaism is younger than thought is stretching his evidence a bit too far. Or making too vague a conclusion, which is what often happens to generate interest...

    They just found a Hebrew "curse tablet" from circa 1200BC.
    Yes, but Hebrew is just a semitic language. If it's a curse tablet, that would imply they were practicing magic spells.
    In quoting my post, you affirm and agree that you have not been goaded, provoked, emotionally manipulated or otherwise coerced into responding.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    Yes, but Hebrew is just a semitic language. If it's a curse tablet, that would imply they were practicing magic spells.
    This particular curse tablet used the name Yahweh.
    https://www.livescience.com/ancient-...t-early-hebrew

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    Quote Originally Posted by LescoBrandon View Post
    This particular curse tablet used the name Yahweh.
    https://www.livescience.com/ancient-...t-early-hebrew
    I see, they were prayers to Yahweh to curse people who had legally wronged them - interesting penalty clause for non-performance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    I see, they were prayers to Yahweh to curse people who had legally wronged them - interesting penalty clause for non-performance.
    Yeah, there's even a reference to the practice in the Bible in Deutoronomy 11.

    29 When the Lord your God has brought you into the land you are entering to possess, you are to proclaim on Mount Gerizim the blessings, and on Mount Ebal the curses.

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    I wonder how old the oral traditions existed before the myths were written down?
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    To me this finding/theory doesn't question the roots of Judaism, which goes back 4000 years or more in oral history, but when exactly it solidified around the idea of monotheism.
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