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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    I think the desire to make vegan or vegetarian 'meat' substitutes is a limiting factor and a fool's errand. It is preventing the development of sandwich fillers that are absolutely tasty but entirely and unapologetically not like meat.
    The idea was that it was supposed to be transitional. Those products were intended to help someone convert from an omnivorous diet to a vegan diet.
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    I can buy a package of six 92% lean beef patties for eight bucks at Target.

    If I'm wanting to grill up some burgers, why would I spend double that amount for burgers which actually aren't burgers at all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    The idea was that it was supposed to be transitional. Those products were intended to help someone convert from an omnivorous diet to a vegan diet.
    You really can't fool the tongue. It's pointless trying to do so. They are developing the technology to grow meat in a lab and for those who eschew meat as a matter of conscience, lab grown meat, ground into a burger would be a conscience free alternative. That makes sense.

    However, it's not impossible to get omnivores to eat meatless foods. They do it all the time and they aren't always sweet foods. It just has to taste really good and have an appealing texture. Personally, I would make children a target market. They aren't set in their ways when it comes to food and many kids hate the taste and texture of meat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    However, it's not impossible to get omnivores to eat meatless foods. They do it all the time and they aren't always sweet foods. It just has to taste really good and have an appealing texture. Personally, I would make children a target market. They aren't set in their ways when it comes to food and many kids hate the taste and texture of meat.
    My best friend had a heart attack while on stage (he's a guitarist) back in the early 1990's. He went vegetarian after that. His wife, who was not a vegetarian, switched to that diet to support him. When they had her daughter, they simply raised her with the diet they had.

    I've had dinner at their home countless times and, as a red-meat loving guy, dinner is always pretty damn amazing there...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    You really can't fool the tongue. It's pointless trying to do so. They are developing the technology to grow meat in a lab and for those who eschew meat as a matter of conscience, lab grown meat, ground into a burger would be a conscience free alternative. That makes sense.

    However, it's not impossible to get omnivores to eat meatless foods. They do it all the time and they aren't always sweet foods. It just has to taste really good and have an appealing texture. Personally, I would make children a target market. They aren't set in their ways when it comes to food and many kids hate the taste and texture of meat.
    Bug protein is a thing now too but I have to wonder how difficult both will be to market. People are going to have an intuitive suspicion about them. Bugs and frankenfood?

    The North American diet is already plant based. Your average person probably gets a majority off their calories from plant foods. I'm probably in that category.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    Bug protein is a thing now too but I have to wonder how difficult both will be to market. People are going to have an intuitive suspicion about them. Bugs and frankenfood?

    The North American diet is already plant based. Your average person probably gets a majority off their calories from plant foods. I'm probably in that category.
    They will add ground insect powder to food under an ambiguous label like natural animal protein. People won't question it.

    The problem with the N.A. diet is that it's primarily based on the wrong plants and they are heavily processed into simple carbohydrates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    They will add ground insect powder to food under an ambiguous label like natural animal protein. People won't question it.

    The problem with the N.A. diet is that it's primarily based on the wrong plants and they are heavily processed into simple carbohydrates.
    It's mostly in powdered form right if I am not mistaken. See example below.

    https://www.amazon.com/Entomo-Farms-...9241019&sr=8-3

    Oh, don't get me wrong. I know it's predominately refined carbs but that's one of several problems with veganism. Most vegans exist on processed gunk because a whole food vegan diet isn't exactly an attractive option.
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    Quinoa Burgers have been around for a while and served all the needs of plant based with better taste.

    Burger-fi even has the Conflicted burger which is an Angus patty and a Quinoa patty, which I have frequently chosen just for the flavor.

    I doubt that I want to eat something grown. What's next? Grown human parts for the menu? There is no need for this garbage they are creating. They are just trying to advertise their way into creating a market.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    It's mostly in powdered form right if I am not mistaken. See example below.

    https://www.amazon.com/Entomo-Farms-...9241019&sr=8-3

    Oh, don't get me wrong. I know it's predominately refined carbs but that's one of several problems with veganism. Most vegans exist on processed gunk because a whole food vegan diet isn't exactly an attractive option.
    Yes, it's available for the keto crowd, but to my knowledge they haven't yet started adding it to things like bread or cereal. However, I expect that we will eventually see (insect) protein enriched foods that will decrease the need for eating much actual meat. Sort of a kibble for humans approach to feeding the masses.

    The vegans I've known were either overweight from eating too many carbs, or very thin because they eat a lot of varied greens and legumes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carolina73 View Post
    Quinoa Burgers have been around for a while and served all the needs of plant based with better taste.

    Burger-fi even has the Conflicted burger which is an Angus patty and a Quinoa patty, which I have frequently chosen just for the flavor.

    I doubt that I want to eat something grown. What's next? Grown human parts for the menu? There is no need for this garbage they are creating. They are just trying to advertise their way into creating a market.
    The lab grown meat concept is being explored because raising livestock is a very expensive way to feed the masses and consumes a great deal of land and resources to maintain. Between 63 to 77% of all arable land is being used for growing animal feed rather than food for human consumption, which translates to food insecurity in many parts of the world. It's not really sustainable.
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