I'm armed, every single day...
I'm armed, every single day...
Abby08 (11-27-2022)
Even if it were proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Founders did not have private firearms ownership in mind when the Second Amendment was proposed and ratified, many things have changed in the last 230+ years. Not every appeal to originalism is sound and reasonable, as in hindsight we look at the Dred Scott decision, among others. We don't live in a predominately rural, farm-based society, our daily lives guided by longstanding traditions centered around the community, and most of us never will. In terms of the likelihood of any one of us becoming the victim of violent crime, life in pre-Revolutionary times was idyllic; to pretend otherwise is irrational.
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stephenpe (11-28-2022)
Abby08 (11-28-2022)
Abby08 (11-28-2022)
Abby08 (11-28-2022)
We do not have to guess what the founding fathers were thinking when they wrote the 2nd amendment the evidence is easily attainable
The Founding Fathers Explain The Second Amendment (thefederalistpapers.org)
we have all of this talk about self defense, and Militia's
The reason that the founding fathers wanted the people to be armed is so they could and would resist a tyrannical all-powerful government
The reason that the left would see the country disarmed is because they are nearing the end of the people willingly going down the the path that leads to a socialist society where they are in complete control of the people
DGUtley (11-28-2022)
Dred Scott isn't an originalist problem so far as Constitutional law goes. The Founders tabled the issue of slavery- the Constitution simply ignored the issue (outside of counting population for congressional district purposes). The 13th and 14th Amendment addresses the rights of the former slaves.
Dred Scott was decided in 1857. The decision hinged on slaves and runaway slave not being US citizens so they had no standing to sue in federal court. (The case then goes into property rights of citizens.) But I am not sure that was a correct application of constitutional law in 1857. Non-citizens certainly don't have every right citizens do, but they do have some. IOW, SCOTUS got it wrong in 1857- they were bending the Constitution, likely because of their personal feelings about slavery.
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