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    Climate Observation

    Not even close to science of any kind, but the power of observation.
    What is your personal experience of climate in your neck of the woods ?
    I'm in my 60's and have lived most ( not all) but most of my life within an hour or so of where I sit as I type this, in NNY.
    The winters of my youth were straight up harsh. Walkways shoveled to the house sometimes meant snow banks over adults heads on both side, I've seen snow in all but two months ( July and August) And every winter saw at least one episode of 40 below, as teens we played street hockey or skated at 20 below. My jean cuffs would be frozen solid when I got home and my feet were very white. But we played. Some of the best times of my life, were surrounded by sandlot sports. Anyway, such were the winters I knew. I wish I had asked my parents more about the winters of their youth, but kids don't do that. They never really said that they had been much different though.
    Then in the late 80's or so we had a few mild winters and then than continued. There was snow, but it often came in huge storms we now know as lake effect and they often came because it was warmer. Nonetheless instead of what we used to call "the January thaw" we might see bare ground half a dozen times a winter!
    And that was how winters stayed for since, except possibly for a slight cooling trend but nowhere close to the winters of the 60's on average. 20 below is nor about as common as 30 below or colder used to be.
    All observations, but not just mine.
    So in my lifetime, in this corner of the world, my experience parallels the warming then pause we are told about.

    So I wanted to ask what your climate experiences have been over time in your area?

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    I grew up in the mountains of NW Colorado, so I know a bit about the frozen jean cuffs. We got cold, minus-51 once when I was working as a security guard for a coal loadout station. My truck wouldn't start so I had to walk home about 1.5 miles. But, it was a pretty dry cold, so it didn't just seep through your clothing.

    We've lived in Kansas most of our adult life, and the biggest change here is the milder spring storms. We used to get a number of really nasty storms, but in the past 7-8 years, tornado alley seems to have shifted to the east a bit. This past summer was hot, but generally, the summers have been cooler in the past decade--and drier. We need rain, but who doesn't?

    I don't think this region has seen the heat and drought it had during the Dirty 30s, though. I think that was about the warmest it got in recorded times.
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    About the same as it was 40 years ago. Hot in the summer. Mild winters with a decent snowfall of three or four inches once a decade or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    …What is your personal experience of climate in your neck of the woods …
    In my neck of the woods it’s usually cold and wet in the winter. Sometimes it’s colder than normal, like has been for the last couple of weeks. Sometimes it will rain nearly every day for few hours. Some winters we get little rain and temps in the 50’s. It depends a lot on whether it’s an El Niño or La Niña year.
    Sometimes we get a heavy snowfall and sometimes we go for a few years with no snow. Our winters are really inconsistent. It’s been that way all my life.


    Our summers are also inconsistent. Some years it’s hotter and drier than normal and sometimes our summers are cooler and unusually rainy. Late July and August is usually quite warm or hot and dry.

    Spring is pretty predictable. We have a combination of warm, cold, wet and dry weather. Spring is usually a very windy part of the year. Fall is much like spring in that sense.

    At any rate our weather has not changed in any noticeable way during my lifetime.
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    Nobody has lived long enough to tell if changes are unusual or not. For example I live in California where many places are hotter and dryer than recent past, but old growth forests suggest this happened long before modern man was here, just some scattered groups Indians living off the land.
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    I have lived in MI, IL, and WI, and we don't get as much snow. as when I was a child. but the word on the street by the weather panic patrol was the coming of the next Ice Age. Of the past 3 winters, 2 warmer than normal 1 colder than normal.

    All I can say is also not very scientific but as the glaciers retreat, as they have done since the end of the ice age, we discover the ruins of ancient civilization, leading me to believe that once upon a time the earth was warmer that it is now

    And if it was warm and got cold it only would be logical that given enough time it would get warmer again? just a thought

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    Quote Originally Posted by zelmo1234 View Post
    I have lived in MI, IL, and WI, and we don't get as much snow. as when I was a child. but the word on the street by the weather panic patrol was the coming of the next Ice Age. Of the past 3 winters, 2 warmer than normal 1 colder than normal.

    All I can say is also not very scientific but as the glaciers retreat, as they have done since the end of the ice age, we discover the ruins of ancient civilization, leading me to believe that once upon a time the earth was warmer that it is now

    And if it was warm and got cold it only would be logical that given enough time it would get warmer again? just a thought
    Not as deep when a child ?Keep in mind you were only 3ft 1

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    Quote Originally Posted by montana View Post
    Not as deep when a child ?Keep in mind you were only 3ft 1
    LOL that was GREAT!!! I have been through Lk Michigan drying up and being able to walk to Milwaukee, to Beach houses falling in the Lake twice now in my life. I think it is more cycles, but as stewards of the earth still think we should try and pollute as little as possible

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    Quote Originally Posted by RMNIXON View Post
    Nobody has lived long enough to tell if changes are unusual or not. For example I live in California where many places are hotter and dryer than recent past, but old growth forests suggest this happened long before modern man was here, just some scattered groups Indians living off the land.
    Which is one reason I said this is just observation and in no way mean to present my observations or anyone else's as anything more than that. It looks like we are all over the board here so far, except for cooler, I haven't seen that yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    Which is one reason I said this is just observation and in no way mean to present my observations or anyone else's as anything more than that. It looks like we are all over the board here so far, except for cooler, I haven't seen that yet.
    The earth may well be heating up and it may well be disastrous, but I sincerely question whether it's due to man-made pollutants. This old earth has been cycling hotter and colder for billions of years. To me, the most concerning thing is how many people could die as a result of cutting off their ability to heat and cool their homes. Even more, I question the wisdom of doing things like seeding clouds to try and bring rain to some areas and keep flooding from others.
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