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    Quote Originally Posted by pjohns View Post
    Since the past tense of "teach" is "taught," would it not be reasonable to suppose that the past tense of "preach" should be "praught"?

    Our English language does seem hugely inconsistent...
    It is literally a shttt show. Enough, THought, Bough......wr words wrestle write .....know now row knee knot ....war wart and car cart
    THere are others even worse but my age causes me to forget. said and maid would could sound

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    And what's with changing the damned rules for Oxford commas? It used to be you separated items in a list with commas. Now, you omit the last comma? Dang leftists have ruined the English language. Consider the following:
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    I was taught you never put a comma before the word "and" so the last comma in the first instance would be considered bad grammar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Lily View Post
    I was taught you never put a comma before the word "and" so the last comma in the first instance would be considered bad grammar.
    I was taught the opposite. Probably I'm older than you by a bit.

    A few simple examples show that omitting it changes the meaning of the sentence entirely.
    “The notion that a radical is one who hates his country is naďve and usually idiotic. He is, more likely, one who likes his country more than the rest of us, and is thus more disturbed than the rest of us when he sees it debauched. He is not a bad citizen turning to crime; he is a good citizen driven to despair.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by LescoBrandon View Post
    Don't get me started on Yankee accents. Pronouncing Rs in words that don't have them, and leaving Rs out of words that do have them.
    Or the British practice of H's and A's

    Henry becomes Enry
    Harry becomes Arry
    Herbert is Erbert
    Alice becomes Halice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OLD GUY IN FLORIDA View Post
    Or the British practice of H's and A's

    Henry becomes Enry
    Harry becomes Arry
    Herbert is Erbert
    Alice becomes Halice.
    It's more of a regional habit. Britian, never mind Great Britain, has a lot of regional dialects - probably as many as you find in the US, all packed into one small island. They even have multiple dialects within London. Some regions in Britian, including East London, have a habit of h-dropping, but not all. It's not considered proper pronunciation (per RP (received pronunciation)) and tends to be viewed as a sign of being poorly educated or coming from a working-class background. H-dropping is discouraged in schools.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stephenpe View Post
    It is literally a shttt show. Enough, THought, Bough......wr words wrestle write .....know now row knee knot ....war wart and car cart
    THere are others even worse but my age causes me to forget. said and maid would could sound
    You wouldn't want to have to pronounce those 'gh' words as they were originally pronounced, which was very much the way the Scots pronounce loch - with a phlegm clearing sound at the end, now pronounced typically as an 'f', with some exceptions where it is pronounced as 'ow' or 'oow'. Would, could and should are even more interesting. Could was once the old English word cuđe, pronounced as 'cooth'. Should evolved from sceolde and would from wolde. Of course, the letter 'L' was pronounced in both. 'Sc' was pronounced as we pronounce 'sh'. I believe the word said was originally pronounced as 'sayed'.
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    Go to Kalifornia, learn some spanglish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LescoBrandon View Post
    "Where's that at?" is a 5 syllable sentence here.
    Why not just omit the preposition "at" altogether?

    (I do not care for the bluenose "rule" that one should never end a sentence with a preposition--there are some sentences, such as "Where will you be coming from?," that definitely suggest such an ending--but the obverse of that, "Where are you going to?," indicates no purpose for the ending proposition. In other words, it is entirely superfluous.)

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    I had friend in Europe that used to also act as the translator in the meeting because the French refused to speak English (corporate language). He spoke 7 languages but said that English was the worst.
    His complaints were too many words meaning the same thing, too many individual words meaning different things and too much slang.
    Let's go Brandon !!!

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