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    What George Will and Karl Rove Get Wrong About Populist Conservatism

    What George Will and Karl Rove Get Wrong About Populist Conservatism is look at and critique of the conservatism of Rove and Will as expressed in a discussion Wednesday on the “future of conservatism” at an event sponsored in part by the Lyndon Baines Johnson Foundation.

    ...Will and Rove launched a more serious broadside at the Right.

    First, they charged that conservatives have abandoned the principles and character of Reagan. Second, that the Right is now angrier than in Reagan’s day and angry populism isn’t “conservative” at all.

    Finally, Will and Rove advocated returning to a type of court conservatism that they attribute to Reagan, but that actually has a lot more in common with the governing philosophy of former President George W. Bush.

    Rove said that many on the Right now sound like the Left because they reject the optimism of Reagan and paint a dark, “dystopian” picture of America....
    Here is some of the reaction:

    ...Perhaps Rove should consider that the populists have a point.

    The daily reality of conservatives across the country is that of fighting an onslaught of powerful institutions, both public and private, arrayed against beliefs that even 10 years ago would be considered basic and foundational.

    Today’s citizen has no reason to believe that his news outlets will report the truth, his child’s school will teach anything good about his country, or that any potential legal accusations will be adjudicated without regard to political perspective. He has every reason to be afraid that exercising his constitutional right to freedom of speech by voicing beliefs completely ordinary by the standards of his countrymen—but contrary to the new dogmas of the elite class—will result at least in Big Tech censorship, and if he is unlucky, losing his job or even access to important private services such as banking.

    If that’s not a rigged system, what, in Rove’s estimation, qualifies?

    Rove said that what the country wants is “what we thought we’d get with [President Joe] Biden—normality.” The hard reality is that “normality” is now dictated by institutions wholly captured by the radical ideology of the hard Left.

    So, what would that return to normality even look like now?...
    And...

    ...In Reagan’s farewell address, he spoke about tax cuts and foreign policy but saved his most important message for the end.

    Reagan celebrated the new spirit of patriotism in America and the economic prosperity unleashed during his presidency. However, he warned that what we needed was “informed patriotism,” and that the nation was losing its institutional, cultural support for the kind of love of country he had grown up with. The world was changing.

    “Younger parents aren’t sure that an unambivalent appreciation of America is the right thing to teach modern children,” Reagan said. “And as for those who create the popular culture, well-grounded patriotism is no longer the style. Our spirit is back, but we haven’t reinstitutionalized it.”...
    Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. ― Gustav Mahler

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    Rove said that many on the Right now sound like the Left because they reject the optimism of Reagan and paint a dark, “dystopian” picture of America.
    Rove is missing something here. The left right now is portraying America as this dark place with little hope for a prosperous future.
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    I could care less what the necons dreams are.

    Neither represent Reagan Conservatism. They just try to capitalize on his name. These same clowns were trying to tell us George Jr was Reagan like.

    The old guard has been shown the door but they keep trying to represent themselves as relevant.
    Let's go Brandon !!!

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    They both should retire and give us a rest!
    My Revenge will be Success! - Donald J Trump

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    Quote Originally Posted by RMNIXON View Post
    They both should retire and give us a rest!
    One can dream, right?





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