Are Looks Important to Women ? (1967)

[FindersKeepers]

After thinking about it, I wouldn't be too harsh on lady #1.
She's got a basic point for survival at that point in history.
I don't think it was meant to be a money grabbing post.

Just a desire for a man who can provide.
But when I look in her eyes.........

I think that's still a factor in cultures where women still don't make much money. But, it's changing rapidly.

[donttread]

That's one of those ask a difficult (deep) question, get a stupid / insincere answer. Looks matter plain and simple, it is the first element of appeal.

we are, especially in our youth all but enslaved by our sex driveDown the road other elements enter.

[Cletus]

Yes, very different times.

Today, many women make more money than the guys they date or marry, and that's changed the relationship dynamic. Men used to be the head decision makers in the relationship--or at least the women let them think they were.
No such pretense exists anymore--at least not in a growing number of relationships. And, perhaps that fact has also steered women away from raising children.

According to a growing school of thought, women are smarter than men, and when you put that together with their ability to make as much or more money, what is left that attracts a female to a male? Males are still physically stronger and there's still an element of protection, but more and more women are buying guns so that's starting to go out the window, too.

Today's young women (a growing number of them in the US) want a partner. They want someone who will share life's journey on an equal footing. They want someone who is intelligent and fun to be around.

We live in interesting times.

Women who take the "I don't need a man" approach are both dishonest and stump stupid.

[Cotton1]

Women who take the "I don't need a man" approach are both dishonest and stump stupid.

And as lonely as they should be.

The last two legger that said "I'm so lonely and there is not a man around to take up my slack. What do I do?"

I replied "shut your damn mouth".

[Cotton1]

I think that's still a factor in cultures where women still don't make much money. But, it's changing rapidly.

There are some women that actually deserve to be paid almost as much as men. I just don't know any of them.

[Cotton1]

That's one of those ask a difficult (deep) question, get a stupid / insincere answer. Looks matter plain and simple, it is the first element of appeal.

Down the road other elements enter.

How far down the road ? When their tits are dragging the floor ?

[FindersKeepers]

Women who take the "I don't need a man" approach are both dishonest and stump stupid.

I suppose that would go both ways. A man who takes the "I don't need a woman" is also dishonest and stump stupid.

For decades, we've had a mindset among *some* men who believed--or at least said--that women were out to trap them. There's a poster here who posts along those lines but he doesn't post here often and his username escapes me right now.

For over a century, we've heard the expression that behind every great man, there is a woman. That's nice in a throw-her-a-bone sort of way, but what happens to that scrap of acknowledgement when the woman is the overachiever?

Like you, I'm a fan of the male/female duo, because I think it works well when it works.

But, that doesn't change what we're seeing in society, and I'm just observing here. Now we have a group of people called "incels," and they're typically males who are angry that women don't want them--won't date them. Some are angry to the point of calling for violence against women.

Our society's dynamics are changing. We can approve of those changes or disapprove, but we probably can't stop them.

[FindersKeepers]

There are some women that actually deserve to be paid almost as much as men. I just don't know any of them.

Oh yes you do!!!

[Red Lily]

Realistically there are many women who don't need a man, as there are many men who don't need a woman, to settle down with unless they intend to procreate.

A woman doesn't need a man to be the breadwinner and nor does a man need a woman to be a homemaker. Society is changing and I'm not a fan of a lot of the changes but it is what it is.

I think too many young couples nowadays see it as a competition between the sexes when it shouldn't be. Partners should compliment each other rather than compete with each other no matter what role they assume. They also don't understand that bad times will always be part and parcel of a relationship and they just aren't willing to put in the effort to ride out the waves. Relationships take work as they evolve and change and you have to change with it if you want it to last. That's life.

[Cletus]

I suppose that would go both ways. A man who takes the "I don't need a woman" is also dishonest and stump stupid.

I would not argue that.

For decades, we've had a mindset among *some* men who believed--or at least said--that women were out to trap them. There's a poster here who posts along those lines but he doesn't post here often and his username escapes me right now.

For over a century, we've heard the expression that behind every great man, there is a woman. That's nice in a throw-her-a-bone sort of way, but what happens to that scrap of acknowledgement when the woman is the overachiever?

Like you, I'm a fan of the male/female duo, because I think it works well when it works.

But, that doesn't change what we're seeing in society, and I'm just observing here. Now we have a group of people called "incels," and they're typically males who are angry that women don't want them--won't date them. Some are angry to the point of calling for violence against women.

Our society's dynamics are changing. We can approve of those changes or disapprove, but we probably can't stop them.

The point I was trying to make was not that an individual woman necessarily needs a man in her life. What I was talking about is that our society was built by men. It is maintained by men. It is protected by men. It is men who are the welders and the ditch diggers and the coal miners and the firemen and the ones who stand on the wall to keep the wolves at bay.