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    Quote Originally Posted by Cletus View Post
    Oh, I'll do fine as long as I don't take your advice.
    Sure. As long as you have no interest in winning wars.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    Sure. As long as you have no interest in winning wars.
    I always find it fascinating how you can talk so much and say so little.
    “Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue.” - Barry Goldwater

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cletus View Post
    I always find it fascinating how you can talk so much and say so little.
    I attribute your attitude to your lack of intellect.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    I attribute your attitude to your lack of intellect.
    If you were smarter, you would know otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cletus View Post
    If you were smarter, you would know otherwise.
    I am smarter. That is why I know. You have depth in one area. You lack breadth. Nor are you interested in gaining breadth.

    You typify the saying, when all you have is a hammer every problem looks like a nail.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    How should we teach strategy? And who should learn it?

    War is a continuation of politics. So politicians must be the first to learn strategy. In the past strategy was also the purview of generals. I think that is too late. I think strategy lessons should begin as soon as one becomes a field grade officer.

    I don't know how to teach politicians.

    History may be the key. The strategy lessons can be found as early as the Peloponnesian war. We should examine all of our wars and the wars of others to see how decisions were arrived at and by whom. Follow them through to the end to see if the strategies were effective or not.

    I may give this more thought.

    I am on the verge of preparing a nonfiction book proposal for my next book. Maybe I should shift my focus.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    1) You can't win a war when you are unprepared to be an occupying force for as long as it takes. Otherwise, all you win is battles. Once you leave, the bad guys regroup and start again.

    2) None of these wars are really about bringing democracy. They are about putting in "friendly" governments or preserving "friendly" governments. There will be a pretense of democratic elections.

    3) You don't teach democracy at the end of a gun barrel and you can't force democracy on cultures that are not democratic. Cultures that are ready for democracy will revolt against authoritarianism. If you want to bring about democracy, you need to reach the women who can teach their children that the status quo is a prison and the men are forced to be the guards. Nothing good thrives in a prison.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    He sounds exactly like me.

    We are brilliant tactically. Good at the operational art level. And complete failures at strategy.

    We no longer teach about whales and elephants.
    I posted about that lack of strategy before- that is a failure of the civilian leadership that gets us into wars.

    Please expand on the whale / elephant statement. I have heard it, but don't recall where. Was it Mahan?
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    Quote Originally Posted by carolina73 View Post
    It depends what you call winning. In my mind, winning means "let God sort em out". We try to fight nice wars. We should just tell Den Haag that they can be next.

    All the crimes of Russia and China and who does Europe do business with = China and Russia.
    The quote was "God will know his own." But in French, I believe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    I posted about that lack of strategy before- that is a failure of the civilian leadership that gets us into wars.

    Please expand on the whale / elephant statement. I have heard it, but don't recall where. Was it Mahan?
    The whale is the maritime nation. The US is a whale. The elephant is a land power. China is an elephant. How does a whale fight an elephant?

    The problem was addressed by Thucydides in the Peloponnesian War. He addressed most of the critical issues of war strategy.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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