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    Why society still needs the family

    The left has long been anti-family, from Marx and Engels to autonomy arguments today.

    Why society still needs the family

    ...It would be easy enough to retort that Marx is hardly the first great thinker to have feet of clay. But in truth, his repudiation of paternal obligation wasn’t much of a departure from the utopian political vision he and Engels outlined. For since The Communist Manifesto was published, three years before the birth of Freddy DeMuth, perhaps its most controversial doctrine has been family abolition. In proposing this, the architects of socialism unleashed a vision that has since inspired many feminists and utopians — but that fails even more completely as a delivery-mechanism for heaven on earth than the flawed and fractious families we have.

    The architects of communism took aim particularly at the bourgeois family. In Origins of the Family, Private Property, and the State, Engels argued that the bourgeois family was a recent invention, rationalised as eternal, that served as a means of perpetuating inequality. The Communist Manifesto denounced this con-trick as a fake universal that, for the proletariat, didn’t even deliver joy or intimacy. Instead, it served as a machine for manufacturing new factory operatives: a cynical enterprise in which proletarian children were “transformed into simple articles of commerce and instruments of labour”.

    More recent critics of the family take this even further. It’s not just the bourgeois family that has to go. It’s every family — even those of the poor, vulnerable, oppressed and helpless, for whom the alternative to relying on blood kin is destitution. This is the argument made by anti-family theorist Sophie Lewis in Abolish the Family: that the revolution must come for everyone. The family, she says, “is to be abolished even when it is aspired to, mythologised, valued, and embodied by people who are neither white nor heterosexual, neither bourgeois nor colonisers”. For it’s only in “collectively letting go of this technology of privatisation, the family, that our species will truly prosper”....
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    What a bunch of baloney. I know gay couples who are family and good family. Move on folks nothing here.


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    Quote Originally Posted by midcan5 View Post
    What a bunch of baloney. I know gay couples who are family and good family. Move on folks nothing here.


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    OP has nothing to do with gays, mid. Learn to read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by midcan5 View Post
    What a bunch of baloney. I know gay couples who are family and good family. Move on folks nothing here.


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    Just like today, the left seek to break down society and everything it represents.

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    It's sad to realize that we are living in a time when the importance of the familiy structure needs to be explained to people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by midcan5 View Post
    What a bunch of baloney. I know gay couples who are family and good family. Move on folks nothing here.


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    As usual, the substance of the issue goes over your head.
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    Quote Originally Posted by midcan5 View Post
    What a bunch of baloney. I know gay couples who are family and good family. Move on folks nothing here.

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    In order to have the breakdown needed by the left to usher in their Utopia, they can't have the family structure. Gay or Straight. they can't have people of faith, any faith. These are things that make people self reliant or have support structures that don't depend on the Deep State.

    I can see why you were so dismissive. Very hard to control people if they are not totally and completely dependent on a Socialist Government.

    Nice Try though

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    Quote Originally Posted by carolina73 View Post
    Just like today, the left seek to break down society and everything it represents.

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    And the Party is the State.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    The left has long been anti-family, from Marx and Engels to autonomy arguments today.

    Why society still needs the family
    Being left of center, or not conservative, does not mean that people subscribe to the theories of Marx, Engels or even Sophie Lewis. Believing in the value of a social safety net is not membership in the Socialist or Communist party. Neither does it suggest abandonment of the family structure. Very few people even bother with political theory outside of academia and I dare say, most on the left would dismiss Lewis's anti-family theory as a load of dung. Academics like Lewis carve out a career in the Social Sciences by developing goofy theories that they can then get paid to teach at University, to students who sign up for useless courses that are easy to pass, in the pursuit of degrees that are worthless.
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