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    Quote Originally Posted by Street Glider View Post
    I'll state right now that no one's going to go to jail for two months for having a cigarette in a city park.

    That's just silly...
    Lighten Up on Lighting Up



    Non-smoking has snob value, which leads to this tyranny. Richkids are sissies afraid of the Marlboro Man and all other masculine images. Their fathers make all our laws and buy the love of their brats with this "SMOKING CAUSES CANCER" hoax.

    The victim's genes cause cancer; smoking only locates it. If a smoker has the cancer gene in his DNA and never smokes or quits smoking, he'll get some other kind of cancer anyway. The statistics indicate that possibility, too, but oncologists are under orders to come to whatever conclusion leads to totalitarian harassment of those not born-rich. Everybody knows that nowadays this is primarily a working-class habit.

    Oncologists are educated eunuchs incapable of curing cancer. So why should we believe these abysmal failures know what causes cancer? The same incompetence applies to both curing and preventing cancer.
    On the outside, trickling down on the Insiders

    We won't live free until the Democrats, and their voters, live in fear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    I have mixed feelings about this. It does seem authoritarian, but by the same token, why should people be allowed to pollute my breathing air with their disgusting dangerous smoke? I love it since Ohio banned smoking indoors, because let's face it, there's no such thing as a "non smoking section" in an enclosed building. You don't have a right to harm others (not you personally, I doubt you smoke, and are so kind you probably wouldn't hurt a fly).
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    Too many non-smokers believed in individual rights for smokers, so the anti-Marlboro Man sissyboys made up lies that non-smokers were endangered by it, too. The massive acceptance of this totalitarian control encouraged the ruling class to inflict on such passive Americans the restrictions of their cronyvirus hoax.
    On the outside, trickling down on the Insiders

    We won't live free until the Democrats, and their voters, live in fear.

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    As a former smoker, this is a bit dumb. Punish the crime (littering) not the smoking itself. Start writing $1,000 fines for littering cigarette butts and people would think twice.

    And as a former smoker, I do find it repulsive now. But the general bans on things because a few ruin it for the rest are frustrating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sage of Main Street View Post
    Common Sense Has Been Defeated by Commie Science


    Too many non-smokers believed in individual rights for smokers, so the anti-Marlboro Man sissyboys made up lies that non-smokers were endangered by it, too. The massive acceptance of this totalitarian control encouraged the ruling class to inflict on such passive Americans the restrictions of their cronyvirus hoax.
    Ding! Cuckoo! Ding! Cuckoo! Ding! Cuckoo!
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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Go elsewhere? There was no "elsewhere". I'm not sure you can own air. Certainly the space which the air resides, but does that give you the right to harm your customers and employees? You make valid points. The fact is, there are no easy solutions to the smoking dilemma. I support private property rights, but public accommodation is another matter.

    In Ohio, we didn't use the government, we put it to a vote.
    Putting it to a vote is using the government.

    I'm not sure what you mean by, "there was no elsewhere." Please clarify?

    A business owner has (or, at least SHOULD have) every right to treat his business in any way he sees fit. Considering he owns the building, he owns the air inside it. (And if it's the same as homeowners, X amount of feet above it.) Customers and employees have every right to shop, eat, or work there, as they see fit. No one is forcing them to be in that building.

    Don't like smoke, etc., don't go there. If so few people go there that the business owner's profits suffer enough to change his ways, he will. Either that, or close his doors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sage of Main Street View Post
    Common Sense Has Been Defeated by Commie Science


    Too many non-smokers believed in individual rights for smokers, so the anti-Marlboro Man sissyboys made up lies that non-smokers were endangered by it, too. The massive acceptance of this totalitarian control encouraged the ruling class to inflict on such passive Americans the restrictions of their cronyvirus hoax.
    Bingo.

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    Many places are introducing non smoking by-laws in apartment buildings and on balconies due to people complaining of smoke drift.

    Should you be able to ban someone from smoking on their own property?

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    And to think that when most of us grew up people thought nothing about lighting up anywhere they went. I can remember smoke basically coming through the floors when the a group below had a party.
    Good thing we had the windows open so we could hear the couple across the way fighting and cursing.
    Last edited by carolina73; 12-31-2022 at 06:46 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carolina73 View Post
    And to think that when most of us grew up people thought nothing about lighting up anywhere they went. I can remember smoke basically coming through the floors when the a group below had a party.
    I'm old enough to have smoked on a plane.
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    I smoked for a few years. So stupid. I still chew from time to time but when I smoked it was daily. Close to a pack a day.
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