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    The Bible — A Book Full of Losers

    And the moral of the story is...

    The Bible — A Book Full of Losers

    ...The Bible doesn’t portray Jews and Christians in a very heroic light.

    In the Old Testament, the Jews — which, by the way, are presented as God’s people — are depicted as incorrigibly corrupt. They are constantly backsliding into paganism. There’s a righteous remnant, sure, but (a) by definition a remnant is a minority, a smaller subset of the larger whole, and (b) the remnant often gets it wrong in various ways.

    The negative depiction is at the collective as well as the individual level. Take two examples of individuals you’d expect to receive hagiographic treatment: Abraham, despite being the “Father of Faith,” is at crucial moments shown to be utterly faithless; David, despite being “a man after God’s own heart,” is depicted as a murderer and adulterer.

    And these depictions aren’t by writers with an anti-semitic agenda; if anything, they had a natural incentive to whitewash.

    In the New Testament, the Gospel accounts depict the disciples as obtuse, incredulous, and cowardly.

    ...Beyond the Gospels, the New Testament letters — most of which were written by the Apostle Paul — generally present the earliest Christian churches in a state of moral and doctrinal crisis.

    ...The lot of them are losers. Plain and simple. But that’s a critical part of the story, isn’t it?
    To be conservative, then, is to prefer the familiar to the unknown, to prefer the tried to the untried, fact to mystery, the actual to the possible, the limited to the unbounded, the near to the distant, the sufficient to the superabundant, the convenient to the perfect, present laughter to utopian bliss. ― Michael Joseph Oakeshott, Rationalism in Politics and Other Essays

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    Ok. What's your point?
    When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.“ - Benjamin Franklin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    Ok. What's your point?
    I suppose it's that the contradictions some are so eager to point to have a moral purpose.
    To be conservative, then, is to prefer the familiar to the unknown, to prefer the tried to the untried, fact to mystery, the actual to the possible, the limited to the unbounded, the near to the distant, the sufficient to the superabundant, the convenient to the perfect, present laughter to utopian bliss. ― Michael Joseph Oakeshott, Rationalism in Politics and Other Essays

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    Nothing happens in a vacuum. Everything has a purpose. Often it's difficult to know what that purpose may be.
    When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.“ - Benjamin Franklin.

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    Sounds like the history book of every civilization.
    Let's go Brandon !!!

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    I think this is found in both the Old and New Testament in order to make it clear that people are terribly flawed and the Church itself is the means to salvation. Same with Islam which literally means Submission.
    Your Trump Derangement Syndrome is NOT my problem!

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